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  • Feature length film/ wheel of doom

    Posted by Nina Tailor on August 23, 2024 at 9:41 am

    so I have a complicated documentary/ a lot of interviews/ and live events/ complex themes. So it was easier to have one long timeline to then drop in selects from interviews across the whole length of the film. Now even scrolling up and down the events menu is invoking the wheel of doom for long periods of time….like let’s just take our lunch break!

    It’s 10 TB of HD footage, all ( including the edit bundle) is on external powered hard drives. Originaly imported in in optimised, now converted to proxy 25% ( hasn’t made any difference…..possibly worse but hard to see the wood for the trees at this point.

    600gb free on a 1TB machine, Mac book pro M1.

    I have a lot of events to make navigation easier with the amount of interviews and long period of time of the subject .

    When I asked before starting this project in Final Cut Pro that you can do feature lengths , and it could cope with the amount of media, and that the hard drive set up would work. I daren’t risk updating mid edit, there is months of work already done.

    I have split the main timeline now across several events, not sure if that will help. Apple support are about as helpful as a chocolate teapot.

    Is the issue that I have set up the edit in the wrong way?

    Is it that Final cut isn’t set up for feature length?

    I have only had this problem over the last two weeks.

    <font face=”inherit”>Also just noticed when I was looking at storage </font>management that the edit bundle is backing up versions that are 7gb several times a day? Odd when the edit is kept on an external hard drive…..but that is now getting bigger every day even though I am just doing cuts/ keys/ markers?

    <font face=”inherit”>Any ideas please? </font>

    Kirk Pitts replied 1 week, 6 days ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Kirk Pitts

    August 23, 2024 at 11:19 am

    I am not an expert but I am curious what type of drives you are using and how they are formatted.

    Also, do you have background rendering turned off or on?

  • Nina Tailor

    August 24, 2024 at 9:07 am

    Thanks for your reply

    I’m using G-Technology 4TB hard Drives, bought from Apple shop, so should be what they say on the can. I just imported media onto hard drive directly…..didn’t format them in anyway.

    I have background rendering turned on

  • Joe Redifer

    August 24, 2024 at 10:08 am

    Final Cut Pro HATES long projects with tons of edits. It’s built for enthusiasts, not professionals who use stuff like Avid. I even get the beach ball of death when all of my media is on a superfast NVMe drive connected via Thunderbolt 4. Not to mention everything Apple has done to make MacOS slower (just try opening a folder with a ton of files in it…. MacOS HATES doing that now whereas a couple of years ago it was super easy for it to do on lesser machines). It’s probably only gonna get worse. Anyway one thing that I’ve found which helps greatly is never zoom out too much on the timeline. It works normally if you’re zoomed in so only 3 or maybe 5 minutes is visible at any given time. Zoom all the way out and you’ll be waiting for a while, but it will catch up.

  • Kirk Pitts

    August 24, 2024 at 1:51 pm

    You could try turning off background renders and I would definitely say working on SSD drives is much better than even a 7200rpm spinning drive. I would double check the format of the external drive just to be sure. It does seem it is formatted for apple when I searched them. One thing I have read is that AFPS can start to cause some read speed issues over time when used on spinning hard drives.

  • Nina Tailor

    August 25, 2024 at 9:35 am

    I’m wondering what to do at this point, as need to get this film done. Should I split over several edit bundles? Worried about investing more time that could end in failure. Someone has suggested devinci resolve, but I have worked on this project for a year and it would be painful to start from scratch.

  • Doug Metz

    August 26, 2024 at 5:09 pm

    I’m also wondering about your storage – drive type, formatting, and how they’re connected.

    A couple of things you can test to see if they help:

    – turn off the inspector when not needed (this one surprised me)

    – switch the browser to list view and untick ‘Waveforms’ there

    – could also try turning off any visual effects, again just to test interface responsiveness

  • Kirk Pitts

    August 26, 2024 at 7:41 pm

    How much ram in the MacBook Pro? It is a good machine but I would expect 32gb would be needed for that large of a project.

  • Kirk Pitts

    August 26, 2024 at 7:44 pm

    Also your backup sizes may be related to background rendering. I would do all basic cuts first then go back and add any transitions, effects or color grading to the project.

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