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  • Feature Film Workflow With Premiere

    Posted by Nate Tam on October 30, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    I’m on board to cut an indie feature film. They’ve asked me about my experience with Premiere and what that looks like for a feature.

    I’m proficient enough in premiere but don’t know what the workflow would be.

    We will be going back to film scans, so I’ll most likely be cutting on prores LT offline.

    My biggest concern is, can premiere pro handle all of the footage we’re taking in from this feature? Granted, it’s only about an hour of footage a day for 31days.

    At Prores LT that gets us to 1tb of footage. I’m not worried about the space, I’m worried about premieres capabilities.

    Also, they may want to send the cut to an avid in the future. I know I can export XMLs and get timecode into Avid, but is it really that simple?

    I’m cutting in 15-20 minute rolls, and stringing them tougher at the end.

    I’m working on a 12 core Mac Pro with 20 gigs of ram. I have a quadro 4000 to speed up graphics processing as well.

    Nate Tam
    Freelance Film Editor
    natetamiam.com

    Roen Davis replied 12 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    October 30, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    [Nate Tam] “I’m proficient enough in premiere but don’t know what the workflow would be.”

    Who will be doing the online/conform/final output? Time to consult with them…before you start anything.

    [Nate Tam] “My biggest concern is, can premiere pro handle all of the footage we’re taking in from this feature? Granted, it’s only about an hour of footage a day for 31days.”

    31 hours? TOTALLY! That’s barely anything.

    [Nate Tam] “Also, they may want to send the cut to an avid in the future.”

    Then why are you cutting on Premiere? Why not stick with Avid from the get go? Going from Premiere Pro to Avid isn’t cut and dry. PPro to FCP, totally easy. Avid…takes some work.

    [Nate Tam] “I know I can export XMLs and get timecode into Avid, but is it really that simple?”

    Avid doesn’t deal with XMLs…so no, it isn’t that simple. AAF is what you’ll be exporting. And then getting Avid to link to the files will be the tricky part. Here’s someone who tried, and was not without issues:

    https://jefferyharrell.tumblr.com/post/19643443810/how-saving-a-day-cost-me-two-days

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

    https://www.tumblr.com/jefferyharrell/19643443810/how-saving-a-day-cost-me-two-days

  • Nate Tam

    October 30, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Thanks for the response. I’m assuming with the amount of footage we will be okay with staying stable in Premiere.

    Almost all of the problems this guy had were timecode issues. We’re shooting on film and cutting with the original timecode and have burn ins.

    We’re not cutting on avid because of budget, and familiarity….and other complications…with that said…

    My main concern is how do I get premiere to Avid smoothly? If the answer is “no, that’s impossible” then that answers my question. Obviously I’m not going to edit the feature all in one timeline, but in 15-20 minute sequences.

    Nate Tam
    Freelance Film Editor
    natetamiam.com

  • Shane Ross

    October 30, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    It’s not impossible, but not easy. Check out the link for what Jeffery tried. If there’s a new way, I hope someone whose done it posts it.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • David Mcgavran

    October 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Premiere has and is continuing to be used on feature films 🙂

    So Yes 🙂

    Cheers

    Dave

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    Senior Engineering Manager Adobe Premiere Pro
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  • Chris Harlan

    October 30, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    I’m with Shane that, in this instance, your best choice is to go with the Avid. Barring that, though, you might want to look at this:

    https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/round-tripping-with-avid-media-composer

    And, here is Adobe’s blurb on exporting AAF:

    https://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WS1E3E2208-8384-42fd-822B-8F07F2E5438Fa.html

    I’m sure its all doable, but involves treading carefully.

  • Nate Tam

    November 1, 2013 at 4:42 am

    Thanks for the replys.

    So it looks like we are NOT going back to Avid. We ARE still going back to film scans. I’m editing offline to online…Now I have questions about this though.

    It’s being shot on film, and seperate audio (obviously), so what steps should I take to cut it and bring it back to the telecine place so they can conform back to the high res film scans?

    My concern is mainly with synching. Is there a specific way I should be doing it? Or will “merge clips” still work if I’m working with an offline to online situation here…

    I need answers and fast! – sorry to be so demanding… :/

    Nate Tam
    Freelance Film Editor
    natetamiam.com

  • Roen Davis

    December 5, 2013 at 7:48 am

    I am doing something close to this…..are you winning?

    roen

    to the deaf person the dancer appears mad

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