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  • Feature edited and finished in Resolve 14

    Posted by Michael Gissing on November 1, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    Redshark news popped this one up today.

    https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/5013-finishing-a-movie-in-a-single-package

    It isn’t news that a feature is finished in Resolve as that happens all the time. Interesting reasons for also editing in Resolve were the edit timeline was also the finish timeline so no translate issues. Reframing & basic grade during cutting became the basis for final grade and some basic VFX done in edit became final. Maybe some don’t realise how inefficient it can be to move a project between NLEs and finish tools. So when talking about how fast and efficient a system is I think this needs to be factored in more, especially as finish facilities are much more expensive.

    No mention of VFX using Fusion so not sure if connect between Resolve and Fusion was a factor. Some long term Avid editor colleagues are feeding me positives about Resolve 14 now that performance has improved and they are seriously considering the switch. One even wants to pension off his old Mac Pro and go Linux in a grunt box. The times are a changing.

    Tony West replied 7 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    Another take on this idea:

    https://blog.frame.io/2017/10/30/cutting-a-film-davinci-resolve/

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2017 at 4:46 pm

    However, from the various posts and articles I see, I get the feeling that there’s more interest in using Resolve to cut a feature than there is to use FCPX. Maybe that’s one of the reasons Apple is enhancing the color tools inside of FCPX. They may see this as a race of the “all-in-ones”. This potentially pits them into an X versus Resolve position among new editors. If so, they’ll need to do something about audio.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Ronny Courtens

    November 2, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    I don’t see it that way. I like the fact that more and more feature films get edited in Resolve, but this does not affect the vast majority of FCP X users at all. Enhancing the color tools in FCP X has little or nothing to do with the feature film market either. It simply gives FCP X users very powerful color correction tools right inside the application without affecting realtime performance, which was not possible using the existing third party solutions.

    As it stands now, and especially in the feature film world, I think Resolve is much more of a threat to Premiere and Avid. They are all fishing in the same pond while Apple seems much more interested in the ocean (-:

    – Ronny

  • Steve Connor

    November 2, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    [Ronny Courtens] “They are all fishing in the same pond while Apple seems much more interested in the ocean (-:”

    Nice!

    \”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka

  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    [Ronny Courtens] “Apple seems much more interested in the ocean”

    I would say at least Adobe is fishing that same ocean. Same for BMD. They are one of the few “pro video” manufacturers that routinely advertises in consumer media. Plus the fact that you can get both the free and paid versions of Resolve in the App Store.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Scott Witthaus

    November 2, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I get the feeling that there’s more interest in using Resolve to cut a feature than there is to use FCPX. Maybe that’s one of the reasons Apple is enhancing the color tools inside of FCPX.”

    What does the cutting of a feature have to do with enhanced color tools? I see no connection. If that were the case, Avid would have beefed up Symphony all these years.

    Scott Witthaus
    Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Michael Gissing

    November 2, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “What does the cutting of a feature have to do with enhanced color tools?”

    Given features often have requirements for custom LUTs and the expectation now to make edits look and sound good for execs who no longer know how to look at ‘offline’ pictures, I see the need for all NLEs doing high end work to have decent color tools. And audio tools.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 2, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    [Ronny Courtens] “It simply gives FCP X users very powerful color correction tools right inside the application without affecting realtime performance, which was not possible using the existing third party solutions.”

    Which has been my point all along about not relying on 3rd party developers for core functionality. For years I have been told by X users that the 3rd party model works best but now I see advocacy for what I said from day one. I also agree that this is not about feature editing but in fact sits well with what seemed to be the philosophy from day one to make an all in one tool.

    As to fish and oceans, I think a free Resolve with Fairlight inside will also appeal to the wider world than features. The only negative is that complex tools confuse but simplicity brings its own limitations which many users do not care about.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 2, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Another take on this idea:”

    Excellent article. I hope the folk at BM take on board her observations.

  • Oliver Peters

    November 2, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “What does the cutting of a feature have to do with enhanced color tools?”

    If you look at why people are interested in using Resolve, color correction is a key factor, because you eliminate the roundtrip. That’s what a number of the interviewees are saying in these customer stories. A lot of features end up going through Resolve at the end. In Apple’s case, if you give the customer good enough color correction, then maybe they’ll opt to stay in X, simply because of the loyalty to X.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

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