FCX 10.1 and HDMI

[Bret Williams]

I was under the impression that this function was reserved for the MacPro?

[Don Smith]

There’s an Apple Support document, talking about 4k, that lists the latest MacBook Pro’s as being capable of being using by 10.1 to output the timeline through the HDMI port. I’m trying to confirm from those running 10.1 on a Late 2013 MacBook Pro if indeed that’s the case for not only 4k but for HD as well. Just making sure before I spend the money for that purpose.

Here’s the Apple Support document:

https://support.apple.com/kb/HT6057

Don Smith

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[Dave Jenkins]

It doesn’t say from the FCP X timeline. Where did you see that?

Final Cut Pro X 10.1: Mac computers capable of viewing 4K resolution via HDMI
The following Mac computers are capable of viewing 4K resolution via HDMI from Final Cut Pro X 10.1.

Mac Pro (Late 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013)
The supported 4K resolutions are as follows. Note that not every 4K monitor will support both of these resolutions, and 4096 x 2160 is only supported via HDMI at 24fps.

4096 x 2160
3840 x 2160

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FCS 3 OS X 10.7.4
FCP X, Logic Pro, Squeeze, Filemaker 10.8.3

[Nick Ring]

I am using a late 2013 15″ rMBP w/ discrete GPU. I did a quick test the other day to confirm that this does exist. I connected to a HDTV via HDMI out. in FCPX 10.1 preferences you’ll see the HDTV listed in the A/V output. Then, under the Window dropdown menu, toggle A/V output. That will switch the HDMI out from a 2nd screen to a full-screen video out.

So, in principle, it works. I didn’t have the opportunity to test it and see how well it actually performs or looks.

-nick

[Dave Jenkins]

I did read this:
NTSC or PAL output requires compatible third-party video interface hardware and software. 4K output requires a third-party video interface or a 4K-capable Mac with an HDMI output. FireWire DV devices are not supported.

So it’s not another computer monitor but a real NTSC output?

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MacPro 3.2GHz Quad Core – AJA Kona LHe+
FCS 3 OS X 10.7.4
FCP X, Logic Pro, Squeeze, Filemaker 10.8.3

[Don Smith]

RE: “It doesn’t say from the FCP X timeline. Where did you see that?”

That’s the point of my inquiry. It doesn’t specifically say ‘Timeline’ but it does say ‘via HDMI from Final Cut Pro X 10.1.” and that’s why I saying that the article seems to suggest that it plays out from the X timeline but I’m looking to confirm that before I buy a new laptop.

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[Dave Jenkins]

Here’s another quote from the manual:
View playback on an external monitor using HDMI
If you’re using Final Cut Pro 10.1 or later on a 4K-capable Mac with an HDMI port, you can play 4K or HD 1080 video on an external video monitor connected to the HDMI port.
For a list of compatible Mac computers, go to https://support.apple.com/kb/HT6057.
1 Use an HDMI cable to connect the external (HDMI) video monitor to the HDMI port on your Mac,
and make sure the monitor is connected to power and turned on.
2 To configure the HDMI monitor, choose Apple menu > System Preferences, and click Displays.
3 In Displays preferences, set the HDMI monitor to be a secondary display.

What happens if you use two monitors plus an HDMI HDTV?

4 Select Scaled, and in the list that appears, select 4096 x 2160, 3840 x 2160, 1080i, or 1080p.
Note: You may need to press the Option key while you click Scaled to see additional resolutions for the HDMI monitor.
5 To select the monitor in Final Cut Pro, choose Final Cut Pro > Preferences (or press Command- Comma), click Playback, and choose the HDMI monitor from the A/V Output pop-up menu.
6 In Final Cut Pro, choose Window > A/V Output.
The Viewer contents appear on the HDMI monitor. Viewer features (such as onscreen controls
and the title-safe and action-safe overlays) can be viewed only in Final Cut Pro. Note: Video and audio are synced at the video frame (not audio sample) level.

Dajen Productions, Santa Barbara, CA
MacPro 3.2GHz Quad Core – AJA Kona LHe+
FCS 3 OS X 10.7.4
FCP X, Logic Pro, Squeeze, Filemaker 10.8.3

[Don Smith]

Thank you DAVE! That decides it. I’ll be putting my max-ed out mid-2012 Thunderbolt 15″ rMBPro up for sale and getting the latest model just to be able to feed out the HDMI port.

Don Smith

NewsVideo.com

[Bret Williams]

Why wouldn’t you just get a BMD mini-monitor? Seems it would be a more proper video out device, supporting inteaced and SDI.

[Craig Alan]

Wouldn’t this do the trick for less:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016029-REG/blackmagic_design_bdlkulsr4k2_ultrastudio_4k_thunderbolt_2.html

Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Camcorders: Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV30/40, Sony Z7U, VX2000, PD170; FCP 6 certified; write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.