FCS upgrade cost -What does the COW think?

[David Smith]

I have to agree with Rene here. So the guy got upset and vented a little, he didn’t attack anybody here, he just asked how others reacted to the upgrade price. Why are people launching personal attacks in response?

This is usually a very helpful and compassionate community. I enjoy that. Perhaps everyone is on edge right now. I know that yesterday’s news has me reeling. My daughter attends college in Virginia. Please, let’s get back to treating each other with the usual CCOW respect and insight. That second C stands for COMMUNITY.

David

[Frank Pledge]

nobody attacked you. it’s just that nobody agreed with you per se.

meanwhile, everyone here is “bilking” their client and in bed with ‘big brother’. nice. i’m sure that comes from a place of experience.

you don’t need fcp 6/fcs2. your concept of your software value is flawed. it is worth exactly what you bought it for as it will do exactly what you bought it for.

look. filmaking is expensive. to a vast majority of the users on this forum it is a steal compared to years past. the real truth is that FCP5 is cheap, stable and incredible. buggy? not sure what you mean.

you lose nothing. nothing. just edit you doc. you absolutley do not need to upgrade whatsoever. I’m not attacking you in any way, but i would assume you would not know how to make the most out of the major upgrade features anyway. they are complex finishing tools.

if you are, however, proficient in ‘online’ color correction and audio mixing and 3d graphics in motion, then upgrade when you are done with your doc and ready for the polish.

if that still feels expensive, price out what it would cost to farm that part out.

fp

[David Roth weiss]

[decloux] “The crossgrade experience gave a false expectation of what woud happen to me.”

“Just when I figured out the meaning of life, they changed it” ~ George Carlin

[Jeremy Garchow]

[decloux] “This is a very long-term project involving everything from old betaSP,
cruddy Hi8, DV “

Hmm, did you budget for a capture card?

[Gary Adcock]

[Borjis] ” [Steve Wargo] “feel bad for the newbies who think that they can get into a professional editing machine for such a low price. 10 years ago, we paid $35,000 and more for a Discreet Edit* system with real time 3D and a whopping 36Gb of SCSI storage.”

We paid $ 250,000 for a discreet smoke* when it came out.”

I am with you Boris, my first HD suite in 2001 had a $ 24K 1st gen HD Only Kona card and with storage totaled over $700,000.00

Now, 6 years later I have a portable HD suite with 15x the storage, 10x faster computer, a location monitor that weighs 1/10 of a CRT, and I can do anything and everything from DV to 2k for around $35,000.

The IoHD from AJA, just dropped my location HD suite to less than $12K with Sata Storage and a laptop and a 17″ monitor and it does bizillions more things than I ever imagined that I would need.

gary adcock
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[James Sullivan]

I think we are missing one minor thing. Apple has been improving their product every year. Avid although nice and functional and proven in the most time demanding schedules has done what? We now have a freaking Da Vinci in a laptop…(almost)

How cool is that?

James Sullivan

[Andrew Kimery]

decloux,

I still don’t understand how your hardware/software purchased in Jan is now “crap” just because faster computers and a new version of Final Cut were released? If it was good enough in Jan why isn’t it good enough now?

Also, if it makes you feel better the first update to the new software probably won’t happen for 2-3 months after it starts shipping and I wouldn’t recommend upgrading until then. So you paid in Jan, and then a “safe” version of Final Cut is out around July, so now the difference is 6 months not 3 months. I know that may sound odd but that’s how I look at new software and 1st gen hardware. I won’t consider buying it until the first round of updates goes by.

-A

[Stuart Simpson]

Sorry – I have to agree with those who point out that you DON’T HAVE TO UPGRADE!

We still run G4 workstations with Cinewave in our shop, and every single day they earn their keep. Damn fine machines.

-Simmie
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[Rob Gardner]

I bought 4 FCP packages three months ago because I had to set up four workstations to cut a series. I’m pretty annoyed like this guy is, but life goes on. The thing that saddens me is the amount of snottiness and smugness that comes out in this kind of thread. There is a lot of pettiness that serves no one. The entire value of a forum like this is to share information and to feel that you can honestly reveal ignorance without concern that you will be made to look like a fool. This is the prime covenant, as far as I’m concerned. Dragging out old war stories to show what a seasoned veteran you, or how much money you are making or whatever are is just self inflation and it helps no one. And I have noticed that it is almost always the true professional small timers who blow their horns the loudest. Why don’t you give this guy a little respect for his opinion and move on.

[Richard Martz]

My thoughts exactly..Can’t we all just get along? I’m voting that we should immediately sit down together, hold hands, and sing Coom bi yah. That and $499 will get you the upgrade.

Richard Martz
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