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  • FCS 3 and upgrades still being sold

    Posted by Craig Seeman on May 2, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    https://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/software/apple?n=professional_software&mco=MTM3NDc5MzU&s=topSellers

    At this point we’re less than 60 days until the end of June and FCS3 and upgrade are still being sold in the Apple Store. Of course there’s no official announcement of FCPX (it was a sneak peek after all) but I can’t help but wonder if some people are going to feel burned if they make a purchase at this point since there’s no upgrade path.

    Please keep in mind that while us veterans are in the know, there are many newbies out there who may be making their first FCS purchase and others upgrading. I’ve popped into enough forums asking about first time purchases or upgrades who have no idea what FCPX is or that there’s no upgrade policy.

    It may be that Apple will announce at around WWDC and have a “30 day” policy or they really intend to sell both products simultaneously for a bit (which would be odd).

    Charles Wren replied 15 years ago 10 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    May 2, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    I’ll be curious to see if Apple will continue to sell Studio upgrades after the release of FCP X. There is still a market for a suite of applications I think.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Craig Seeman

    May 2, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Unless and until FCPX has full integration of some of the suite’s utilities, Apple’s continued sale of FCS3 makes sense.

    The thing to consider (not that Apple is doing the considering), if the FCS3 suite remains at $999, it may make sense for people who need motion graphics to simply buy and learn After Effects and those who need professional Color grading to buy Resolve. The alternative is to go the “Shake” route and reduce the price as EOL software still for sale. That could even buy some time for Apple if they do intent an eventual new suite and don’t have it ready to go.

    Although not a direct parallel, I’d point out that while iLife 11 is now three independent apps in the App Store, iMovie, GarageBand, iPhoto, the boxed set of iLife 11 at Apple Online also includes iDVD and iWeb. It does indicate Apple’s willingness to keep EOL products available for Online purchase even if not in the App Store.

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 2, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    I’d guess Apple will keep FCS and the upgrade for a while. I think as Motion and STP and maybe Color get upgraded they’ll become available as separate downloads. Somewhere around there FCS will disappear. Cinema Tools may become a free download. Compressor will come soon too I think. I don’t think there will ever be a DVDSP available for download. Any DVD creation will be built into the Compressor templates functions. For full DVD functionality I think Apple will make people look elsewhere. They are so convinced the silver disc is history.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Craig Seeman

    May 2, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    [Tom Wolsky] “For full DVD functionality I think Apple will make people look elsewhere.”

    Given that iDVD is still available as part of iLife Online only, they may do the same for DVDStudioPro (online store only purchase). They could kill it outright though if it’s fundamentally incompatible with Lion though.

    [Tom Wolsky] “They are so convinced the silver disc is history.”

    [Tom Wolsky] “Compressor will come soon too I think.”

    This is why Compressor has to have a major overhaul. You can’t pronounce disc as dead and then neglect the alternative they claim is the vital future.

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 2, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    I think by the time Lion is shipping Studio will no longer be for sale online and DVDSP will go with it.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Devin Crane

    May 2, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Here’s some food for speculation. I bought an upgrade the week before the demo for $299, the outside box said Upgrade but when I installed it, the software never asked for my Previous Serial Number. So I looked at the Key # in the package and low and behold it said “Retail”. Either they made a mistake or are quietly sending full retail to everyone.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 2, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    [Devin Crane] “the outside box said Upgrade but when I installed it, the software never asked for my Previous Serial Number. So I looked at the Key # in the package and low and behold it said “Retail”. “

    It was a contest Devin. Had you simply notified Apple and sent it back, you would won millions in cash and prizes. Instead, you’re now excluded from future contests.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 2, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Mistake I think. It seems to happen way more often than it should.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    May 2, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    pot luck gag – What does anyone think the combined price of whatever the new apple app store offerings (of the formerly FCP studio) will combined come to?

    winner to receive a t-shirt I am currently unaware of..

    let’s do a back street bookies.

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 3, 2011 at 12:05 am

    $615.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

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