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  • FCS 2 Upgrade: experiences, warnings, thoughts…

    Posted by Bbalser on May 19, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    My upgrade went fine, no real problems, plan on about 2 hours (I’m running a maxed out Quad Core G5).

    Only two things I notice that deserve warning:

    An annoyance, but not serious, all your user/system/AV preference settings will revert to factory defaults. FCP Rescue will not restore preferences properly.

    Second, and for me this was MAJOR serious, everything in your Favorites bin in the Effects tab of the Browser will vanish. Again, FCP Rescue will not restore them. I had a HUGE collection I’d built up over the last few years, now it’s all down the toilet. So be aware you will lose all of that with the upgrade.

    Other than that, everything seems to be cool. I’d warn that if you open older projects into FCP 6, make a copy of the original FCP project file and only use the copy, not the original, until more users have tried it out.

    Anyone else have any upgrade/installation experiences to share?

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    – South Louisiana FCP Users Group, slfcpug.org
    – NOVAC Digital Filmmakers Institute, novacvideo.org
    – Event DV magazine, eventdv.net

    Mitch Ives replied 18 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    May 19, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    [bbalser] “An annoyance, but not serious, all your user/system/AV preference settings will revert to factory defaults. FCP Rescue will not restore preferences properly.”

    Of course, the preferences will always reset when you install a new version. Since this is an entirely new version, FCP Rescue won’t be able to help.

    [bbalser] “Second, and for me this was MAJOR serious, everything in your Favorites bin in the Effects tab of the Browser will vanish. Again, FCP Rescue will not restore them. I had a HUGE collection I’d built up over the last few years, now it’s all down the toilet. So be aware you will lose all of that with the upgrade.”

    Of course, again, your preferences were trashed so your Favorites go with it. You should have created a new project and dragged all your effects to this project. This is how I store my effects and I have been recommended this technique for probably a year. I was actually planning to have a tutorial out about this by now, but can’t get SnapX Pro to work correctly on my Mac Pro.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

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  • Bbalser

    May 19, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Walter, I’ve used FCP since 1.0, and no “upgrade” ever did this before. As a cert’d trainer, I contacted Apple, and they are looking into it. No, no “upgrade” ever did this before.

    – ACT
    – FCS, SA & FS-100 videos http://www.bbalser.com
    – South Louisiana FCP Users Group, slfcpug.org
    – NOVAC Digital Filmmakers Institute, novacvideo.org
    – Event DV magazine, eventdv.net

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 19, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    I have not seen FCS2, but in previous versions preferences always had new names, some small variation in the name that allowed both earlier version prefs and current version prefs to exist in the same folder. Are the new pref names the same as the previous version?

    All the best,

    Tom

    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

  • Ron James

    May 19, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    [bbalser] “Second, and for me this was MAJOR serious, everything in your Favorites bin in the Effects tab of the Browser will vanish. Again, FCP Rescue will not restore them. I had a HUGE collection I’d built up over the last few years, now it’s all down the toilet. So be aware you will lose all of that with the upgrade.”

    I thought this happens anytime pref’s are replaced? I do what Walter says: keep them in a project file.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 19, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    [bbalser] “As a cert’d trainer, I contacted Apple, and they are looking into it.”

    Ben,

    I’m not a certified trainer, but I do recommend to everyone here, over and over again, that they clone their system drive before updating or upgrading. In the case of a major upgrade like this one
    it should go without saying.

    As a Louisiana boy myself, transplanted to the other L.A., I’d really like to see all Louisiana FCP users trained to clone, just in case I move back some day. I respectfully request that you adopt the clone and test proceedure from now on… it can be a real lifesaver.

    All the best,
    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Bbalser

    May 19, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    I’ve relied on FCP Rescue, so I do have the original pref files. I also have my system cloned on my Powerbook, so I can restore from there.

    Again, no previous FCP upgrade has trashed all those prefs, and several of my custom layouts (but not all).

    Thanks for the lecture.

    – ACT
    – FCS, SA & FS-100 videos http://www.bbalser.com
    – South Louisiana FCP Users Group, slfcpug.org
    – NOVAC Digital Filmmakers Institute, novacvideo.org
    – Event DV magazine, eventdv.net

  • Bbalser

    May 19, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    I deleted the “Final Cut Pro 6.0 Prefs” file (after making a backup copy), copied my old “Final Cut Pro 5.0 Prefs” file, renamed it with the “6.0”, simple as that. Thankfully the upgrade left the 5.0 file in tact, it’s just FCP ignores it now. That’s why I use FCP Rescue, cause it’s faster and easier and less cumbersome than having to go through making a whole new project, etc. Two mouse clicks and you’re done.

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 19, 2007 at 6:54 pm

    [bbalser] “Walter, I’ve used FCP since 1.0, and no “upgrade” ever did this before. As a cert’d trainer, I contacted Apple, and they are looking into it. No, no “upgrade” ever did this before.”

    All upgrades did this for me here. In fact, whenever I install a new AJA Kona driver, all Prefs are tossed as part of the install.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

    All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • David Roth weiss

    May 19, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    [bbalser] “Thanks for the lecture.”

    Oh, that’s right, you’re certified and therefore beyond good advice. Excuse me!!!

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 19, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    [bbalser] “I’ve relied on FCP Rescue, so I do have the original pref files. I also have my system cloned on my Powerbook, so I can restore from there.

    Again, no previous FCP upgrade has trashed all those prefs, and several of my custom layouts (but not all).

    Thanks for the lecture.”

    You must have a very special FCP system because I’ve never seen a system where the prefs were not trashed as part of an install. That’s a matter of course and generally if you try to use prefs from an older version of the app, you screw up the current version.

    Custom Window Settings and the like I always move off to the desktop before I do a re-install so I can just slide them back into the app.

    No lecture here, just telling you what we’ve seen.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

    All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

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