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FCPX vs PPro CC
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[Bill Davis] ”
Not saying there are no issues. NLEs always have issues. Just saying any such appear to be similar to anecdotal word we get right here on the Cow about people having workflow issues with AVID, Vegas, or any other NLE.Right now I’m watching very closely the rollout of Yosemite across the FCP X communities, and it appears to be even more stable than Mavericks,. How will that fundamental change affect PProCC stability. Hopefully, not at all. Perhaps it will improve some things and stress others. Only time tells.”
My experience has been very positive running FCP X on Yosemite. It launches much faster and is much more stable. None of that cancelling background task message when exiting out, unless there was some rendering taking place.
Occasional split second beach ball upon launching Motion, but not 5 to 10 seconds of it like under Mavericks. Still the occasional unexpected quit but not very often.
Resolve seems to launch faster but real time performance still bit of a lag. Must be time for a new Mac Pro with extra beefy performance.
camera operator | editor | production assistant
Blackmagic Cinema Camera | FCP X | Motion 5 | Compressor 4 | Resolve 11
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[Bill Davis] “It very well be taking place inside a particular strata, a media approach, a type of specific network or inside a type of workflow, but I know lots and lots of X editors who cut on stuff with lots of content and appear not to face this. “
As I said, YMMV. If you scan through various threads here, there are plenty of folks experiencing the same issues. I happen to have hit it again this past week. 2011 12-core Mac Pro, 32GB RAM, ATI5870 card. 1,000 clips – mainly ProRes – on a SAN. About 3TB of media total for a 2min. piece.
When I’m rocking’ and rollin’ in the edit – slam a few clips to the timeline and back it up to play through, I expect the darn video to play. I don’t expect it to freeze, stutter, etc. Usually, it takes a couple of attempts to back up the timeline and play through it. That’s what X does for me on virtually every project and every machine I’ve used it on. Note that the same condition on the same hardware as a matter of fact, did not do this on FCP 7.
For me, X has a lot of wonderful features, but top timeline performance isn’t one of them. But I’m a keyboard editor and try not to rely on the mouse to operate the software, so I have very little tolerance for this stuff. Especially after 3 years in the wild.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Loren Risker] “I also get a lot of multicam footage, which FCPX is a lot better at.”
Loren,
In what way(s) do you find X a lot better than PPro when it comes to multicam?
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Fewer clicks/keystrokes to set up and use.
I have had excellent results in throwing a bunch of different clips, even mismatched framerates/cameras and getting a perfectly set up multicam automatically. My first editing job was logging and setting slate markers for FCP5. Never again!
I like the multicam viewer a lot better in FCPX.
I like how it edits in the timeline.
And I’m not sure how premiere handles this off the top of my head, but I like how you can make adjustments to the multicam at any time and it carries through all the edits.
Mostly, I find it’s just faster to go from unsynced footage to camera switching in the timeline with fewer keystrokes. Unless it has been significantly improved in the latest CC version.
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[Loren Risker] “And I’m not sure how premiere handles this off the top of my head, but I like how you can make adjustments to the multicam at any time and it carries through all the edits.
Mostly, I find it’s just faster to go from unsynced footage to camera switching in the timeline with fewer keystrokes. Unless it has been significantly improved in the latest CC version.”
What version of PPro did you last use multicam in? I didn’t use it in CS6 (PPro version 6) but in CC 2013 and CC 2014 making a multicam is dead simple. Highlight all the clips you need, right click, select Make Multicam, pick your settings (sync by TC, Audio, etc.,) and away you go. I’ll do 200-300 pieces of media at a time (3 camera shoot plus second system sound) and PPro will sync up a 5-6 hour shoot day in 15 minutes or so. I also mix and match various frame rates and frame without a problem.
Multicam in PPro is a nested sequence so you can make adjustments to it at any time and those adjustments will carry through all the edits too.
I haven’t used X but it sounds like PPro and X handle multicam in a very similar fashion. Much quicker and user friendly than creating Multicam in FCP Legacy and Avid.
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Dennis, which definition best applies here?
Subjective:
1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective ).
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual:
3. placing excessive emphasis on one’s own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.Personally, I think it’s N°3, do you? 🙂
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I had the pleasure today of editing on both X and Premier today. For me, the speed, tools and theory of X is way better. Just my “subjective” opinion. 😉
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Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
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[Bill Davis] “I’m all over a wide range of FCP X boards and this does NOT seem a universal experience across the very wide swath of X editors or projects, Oliver.”
It is with me. I totally know what Oliver is talking about. From working in both Premiere and FCPX recently, I tend to use Premiere to start off new projects as it’s more stable at this point.
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We cut 9 hours of a 5 camera multicam over the last 3 days on Yosemite without a hitch! Loving X!
Dajen Productions, Santa Barbara, CA
Mac Pro 3.5MHz 6-Core Late 2013
FCP X
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