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FCPX performance issue – the perils of compound clips
Phil Hastings replied 14 years ago 10 Members · 24 Replies
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Tony West
November 26, 2011 at 6:25 pmWhat about this tip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncGlpm854eg
Seems like it would help with speed at least.
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Simon Ubsdell
November 26, 2011 at 7:27 pmThanks for the link, Tony – but more knowledgeable people than I am have come to the conclusion that it’s very undesirable in the long run to use compound clips instead of projects, despite what this guy says.
It’s been quite widely discussed around here – a lot of folks latched onto this workflow very early on and found it problematic.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Bill Davis
November 27, 2011 at 2:59 amI don’t want to be harsh here, but with the advent of cheap “instruction” software and the ability of every and anyone to set up a “screen recording” and a microphone and pretend to be an instructor – are we join to be forever having to wade through content like this?
I know the guy is doing nothing but trying to share knowledge, but it appears that without so much as an OUTLINE – let alone an actual “lesson plan” we’re getting treated to a raft of people who think that launching a program and wandering around in it while describing it in real time is worth presenting to the world via the web…
This is worse than when Desktop Publishing came out and everyone was suddenly a “type designer.”
Sigh.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Joseph W. bourke
November 27, 2011 at 4:00 amBill –
This is just the beginning. I remember only too well the desktop revolution. Everyone had 36 typefaces to use, and they used them – on every page!
This time around it’s going to be worse when you factor in sound, motion, and color. You think a bad page design is bothersome? Wait until you hear someone who can’t put two sentences together try to explain how to use software they bought last week, and didn’t read the manual yet!
In my market there’s been an explosion of “film makers”, “editors”, and “cinematographers” who just bought the pro-sumer HD camera, and now own FCPX, and are hanging out their shingles as if they know what they’re doing. I wish them well, and we all have to start somewhere, but ninety percent of them will be selling real estate in a year or so. It’s a brave new world!
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
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Rafael Amador
November 27, 2011 at 5:04 amFor me all this has a certain logic when FCPX have changed from “Sequences” to “Projects”. A compound clip as a full project. When you make a compound clip of a selection you are nesting a full project inside a project. Compounds clips made out of Compounds clips are projects inside projects, inside projects (like the russian nesting dolls), so although in theory you are working with just one project at a time, internally FCPX may be managing a bunch of them.
Just a thought.
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Tony West
November 27, 2011 at 11:01 amWhat I have seen in my market is a flow of people who got let go at the local stations because they want as few humans working there as possible.
These folks have skills because they have been cutting and shooting for last 20 years.
Can’t blame them for jumping into the freelance market. Beats a lot of other jobs.
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Simon Ubsdell
November 27, 2011 at 2:32 pmBill Davis
I don’t want to be harsh here, but with the advent of cheap “instruction” software and the ability of every and anyone to set up a “screen recording” and a microphone and pretend to be an instructor – are we join to be forever having to wade through content like this?
I had to read this twice before I could get my head around the fact that this is the same Bill Davis who has been so consistently and volubly lauding the democratisation of video editing (or shall we just call it the “advent of cheap editing software”?) as the best thing since the invention of the sliced loaf 😉
Sorry, Bill – a cheap shot, I know, but just too tempting to be ignored.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Bill Davis
November 27, 2011 at 8:51 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “I had to read this twice before I could get my head around the fact that this is the same Bill Davis who has been so consistently and volubly lauding the democratisation of video editing (or shall we just call it the “advent of cheap editing software”?) as the best thing since the invention of the sliced loaf 😉
Sorry, Bill – a cheap shot, I know, but just too tempting to be ignored.”
Fair criticism.
However, I don’t see “democritization” as the the same as “lowering standards.”
One implies that everybody has the same access to the tools necessary to improve.
That IS NOT the same as arguing that just because you CAN do something, that the market shouldn’t also judge how well you do it.
Every professional on this board had to learn to take criticism – and use it to drive improvement. Criticism is inescapable. Particularly in a craft where everyone who watches what we do generally feels they’re qualified to critique it.
If I was harsh to the OP -that was NOT my intent. But my intent WAS to point out that sitting at a microphone and “real time” narrating a disjointed overview that has little structure, is un-edited (yet designed for EDITORS?!) and is a bit long on self indulgent elements like the time in the beginning devoted to branding, driving Twitter and Facebook traffic, and generally messing around before any actual content was delivered – was NOT the sign of someone who is serious about providing value to their audience.
No big sin, that. It’s simply the mark of an amateur. And while we were all amateurs once, I still think it’s fair to point out the difference – if for no other reason than those who are thinking about doing something similar might be driven to take their work more seriously.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Simon Ubsdell
November 28, 2011 at 12:03 pmBill Davis on Nov 27, 2011 at 8:51:51 pm
However, I don’t see “democritization” as the the same as “lowering standards.”
I don’t disagree at all with your opinion of this kind of “tutorial” but I do rather feel it is a necessary consequence of the whole democratization thing, like it or not.
Anyone who can open a box (have you seen those jaw-dropping “unboxing” videos!?) or download a piece of software from the App Store is now an “expert” and there’s not a lot we can do about it – most of the people watching these tutorials don’t know the difference and it becomes a vicious circle of downwardly spiralling standards. That’s the internet for you.
I would just say that this guy’s piece is a lot less dreadful than many I’ve seen.
And the self-promotion that you deplore is very much a necessary part of the YouTube self-publishing revolution – the aim is not so much to keep delivering quality content as to keep folks coming back to your “channel”. Persuading people that you’ve got something worth saying is arguably more important in this field than actually having something important to say.
Simon Ubsdell
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Bill Davis
November 28, 2011 at 7:50 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “Persuading people that you’ve got something worth saying is arguably more important in this field than actually having something important to say.
“This, my friend, deserves a t-shirt!
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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