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  • Andy Neil

    October 9, 2011 at 4:51 am

    [Mark Morache] “Don’t you ever want to slip the clip, and leave all the connected clips exactly where they are?”

    Ok, I understand you now. You’re right it is cumbersome in those circumstances. Ideally, you should be able to press a modifier key like CMD while slipping the clip and it would allow you to slip a clip relative to the connected clips. I think I’ll send that along as a feature request.

    I’m not sure what your workaround is, I do one of two things: I either matchframe back to the original clip, find my new in or out point and do a replace edit so that my connected clips don’t move, or else I perform the slip, keeping an eye on the tool tip that tells me how many frames I’m slipping, and then select the connected clips and type + or – the final number to jump them back to their point.

    But a quick modifier would be perfect and easy to implement.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Steve Connor

    October 9, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    FCPX obviously has a lot of issues, pretty confident this has been covered, Oliver is mostly correct, I do however disagree with his claim the GUI is slower than FCP7, I haven’t found that to be the case at all.

    The slip behaviour is just an example of another one of the annoying issues FCPX has.

    Having said that for my workflow FCPX works well, I’ve been using it exclusively for a couple of months on a range of projects and have found that overall, for me, it hasn’t caused any serious issues. On the whole it has improved my speed of working and there is an awful lot I like about it.

    I fully understand how it doesn’t and may never work for a large number of people in the industry. The next few months will show how serious Apple are about reaching the higher end of the market, if they are at all.

    “My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”

  • Herb Sevush

    October 9, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I believe you posted this in the wrong thread.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Tahir Ramzan

    October 9, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    ??

    Tahir Ramzan

  • Steve Connor

    October 9, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I believe you posted this in the wrong thread.

    You are correct!

    “My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”

  • Rafael Amador

    October 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    [Andy Neil] “I’m sorry. I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. Layers and tracks are two separate things. Layers are not qualities of a track based system. They are qualities of layers. FCPX does not have tracks, but they DO have layers.”
    So when you pile tracks in FCP, tracks do not act as layers?
    An upper track do not mean a physical position of the picture over the lower track?
    An order in the rendering pipeline?
    Call it layers or tracks, is the same story even if the functionality is different (they’ve been designed with different purposes). The idea is the same.
    The Lego-like time-line (that many people try to escape going to FCPX) is unavoidable as soon as you try to make some elaborated composition.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 9, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “So when you pile tracks in FCP, tracks do not act as layers? “

    Sure, but they can also be mutually exclusive, and you don’t have a choice. In FCPX you can have layers, but no tracks.

    [Rafael Amador] “An upper track do not mean a physical position of the picture over the lower track?”

    This is where it’s interesting with FCPx. With some of the new composite modes the visual layer order doesn’t matter. You can have a title visibly under the primary storyline, but it shows like a normal title should over the video in the viewer. Combine that with compound clips, and you can have lots of possibilities.

    [Rafael Amador] “An order in the rendering pipeline?”

    Not necessarily

    [Rafael Amador] “Call it layers or tracks, is the same story even if the functionality is different (they’ve been designed with different purposes). The idea is the same.”

    I think the only idea that’s the same is a way of organizing your media in time. FCPX is a new approach to this.

  • Herb Sevush

    October 9, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Many posters, claiming as evidence that Apple has not given up on the Pro (complex workflow) market have asked the rhetorical question “Why would Apple have enabled 2k & 4K workflows in FCPX if they weren’t interested in the “Pro” market.”

    The 4s has given us the answer. Apple doesn’t see 2k and 4k as uniquely high end capabilities. Their including it in their Iphones.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Rafael Amador

    October 9, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “[Rafael Amador] “So when you pile tracks in FCP, tracks do not act as layers? ”

    Sure, but they can also be mutually exclusive, and you don’t have a choice. In FCPX you can have layers, but no tracks.”
    Kind of possible endless discussion.
    In a classic video editing application makes no sense having layer if you have no way to pile the stuff. This is done by moving tracks as layers.
    Obviously, as long as FCPX lack tracks must implement other method of layering. l

    [Jeremy Garchow] “[Rafael Amador] “An upper track do not mean a physical position of the picture over the lower track?”

    This is where it’s interesting with FCPx. With some of the new composite modes the visual layer order doesn’t matter. You can have a title visibly under the primary storyline, but it shows like a normal title should over the video in the viewer. Combine that with compound clips, and you can have lots of possibilities.”
    With some of the new composite modes.
    Your example is like a kind of Downstream Key. Good.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “[Rafael Amador] “An order in the rendering pipeline?”
    Not necessarily”

    Don’t catch you.
    The picture shown is always the top, unless you apply some kind of filter, motion effect or compositing mode. Composting modes are also applied from the top to the bottom. Change the order, change the results.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I think the only idea that’s the same is a way of organizing your media in time. FCPX is a new approach to this.

    FCPX just order things sequentially. Time is a result.
    In FCP time is absolute. You set timing and duration by mean of editing, not with old fashioned slugs.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Shane Ross

    October 10, 2011 at 3:42 am

    FCX doesn’t work for anything I edit…except for maybe family home movies. It doesn’t do OMF so I cannot export audio to my audio mixer, it doesn’t have proper color correction, nor any way to export for outside color correction (Color, Resolve), it doesn’t allow me to export PROPER audio stems (ROLES tried to address this need…failed). It doesn’t allow monitoring on an external broadcast monitor.

    My projects have tight deadlines, and strict requirements, so I don’t have time to learn a whole new way to edit, nor to figure out how to get this application to possibly do everything I need to do. Why they changed the way editing is done is beyond me. The way it does things is wrong for pretty much everything I do. And I don’t have time to fiddle with in the meantime and wait for it to eventually do what I need.

    Avid and Premiere do what I need to do (well, Premiere still lacks a couple things I need)…but in the meantime, I am still relying on FCP 7, and doing some work with Avid.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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