-
FCPX or Not…
-
[sandy shapiro] “The rumors of the macpro tower’s demise is another story. Have you ever tried cutting Alexa Pro Res 444 on a new Imac packed with Ram?”
Just “offlined” 3 spots on a 2009 MacBook Pro dual core with a real time Glue Tools LUT. And when I say offline, the 444 ProRes files were used.
4 GBs of RAM, second internal media drive (pulled my DVD drive and put a hard drive in it’s place).
So…yes, but no.
I imagine a newer quad core iMac would probably have been all good, and better.
Jeremy
-
[Bill Davis] “And in doing so they may damage the potential of FCP-X irreparably.
Too many people are still hollering for it to be more and more like the editing systems we’ve had for decades.”
Oh come on. Having an optional viewer and canvas and optional tracks might damage the potential? Options and features, as far as I remember, have never damaged the potential of anything, rather the contrary.
You can’t shake the idea that people want what you call old fashioned because of habbit. I might be because it actually works.
A wheel is a wheel and it is round for a reason. Reinventing it and making is square just so that it’s different and then asking third-party developers to supply the sandpaper doesn’t make sense.[Bill Davis] “FCP-X elevates “edit” more towards parity with concepts such as search, sort, find, alter and deploy.”
As well as revolutionary concepts such as crash, corrupt, enjoy spinning beachball, reinstall from scratch, pull hair out and finally switch application.
-
“[Richard Herd]The pro part: It keeps losing media and I have to relink. Yesterday it stopped saving.”
Odd, I haven’t experienced this. Is it possible that you have a configuration/workflow issue?
Shawn
-
[Frank Gothmann] “optional viewer and canvas”
I’ve seen this come up a few times now. I’m not sure why folks love the viewer and canvas idea so much, but I think it had to do with ganging and matching between shots. If that’s the beef, here, you can do that in the precision editor.
https://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0.3/#verc1fac344
and also select the following option: https://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0.3/#ver3363b235
If on the other hand, you have a different beef, then it can “usually” do what you want it to do, it just has a totally different name. I put usually in quotes not as sarcasm but to point to the fact that some features are missing, especially with regard to export. Dang! I mean “sharing.” It’s now called “sharing” not export.
-
[Jeremy Garchow] “I know David L said that X’s timelines are incompatible with any other NLE, I would beg to differ. No offense, David, just pointing it out. Yes, sometimes it requires 3rd party support, sometimes it doesn’t, but that doesn’t bother me.”
No offense taken 😉
BTW, I wasn’t talking about interchange, which is clearly getting better. I was talking about the timeline itself, which is definitely odd man out in the post industry. Some folks like it and some think it’s a mess. I’m in the latter category. Maybe I’m weird but I think it’s important that the track layout I send to my sound guy looks the same as what I’m seeing in my NLE. I’m skeptical that roles will ever be as robust as a well organized track layout. I think it’ll be a while before we see this level of exchange from FCPX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxjJbiQiW4
The reason this kind of exchange fidelity is possible is because the track-based world is a mutually understood language; a language that’s been shared by most time-based tools for decades. Apple has every right to try to reinvent that language, but choosing to go it alone instead of building on industry standards really only benefits Apple. They shouldn’t be surprised by an industry response like the ones from Bunim/Murray and Conan’s guys.Of course if you’re happy with the workflow and don’t mind that timelines may look completely different as they move around the pipeline, by all means enjoy. All that matters is that it works for you.
[Jeremy Garchow] “The biggest thing that will stall FCPX completely (in my opinion) is not the Project or timeline or native format interfaces, but rather performance and reliability. People will find ways to work around any quirks, but if the program is crashing or in the one case we’ve heard about, corrupting beyond easy repair, then it will never get picked up by the late swath of professional editors, and I mean that in whatever pro space you work in. It needs more time in the oven.”
Agreed. I have a feeling that performance and stability improvements will be consuming the Pro Apps team for quite a while. For this reason alone, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for new features. They need to get the current release stable first.
_______________________
David Lawrence
art~media~design~research
propaganda.com
publicmattersgroup.com
facebook.com/dlawrence
twitter.com/dhl -
Monitor/Canvas isn’t a beef – it’s a necessity for much of the work we do. and the work around links you provided is actually an EXTRA step. You can make the match frame or action match with a Preview/Record two window set up….in one edit
With the “precision editor” (funny how even Apple acknowledges it’s new way isn’t all that precise) you must do two steps — make the edit – and then slip slide ripple or roll the edit to match the action you want to match.
Another upgrade that is a step backward
Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852 -
[David Lawrence] “I think it’ll be a while before we see this level of exchange from FCPX:”
I would beg to differ again (Crazy, I know).
Just curious, do you ever send your sequences off to audio post?
-
[Jeremy Garchow] “Just curious, do you ever send your sequences off to audio post?”
Of course. OMF when I send to my sound guys. When I’m on my own, I actually prefer to round trip with Soundtrack Pro. Despite a few UI quirks, the workflow with STP is great and I have all the tools I need at my fingertips.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I would beg to differ again (Crazy, I know).”
LOL, well what’s crazy is 8 months and two updates out they still haven’t managed to provide basics like audio sync markers. What’s up with that? The fact that something this elementary is missing to begin with says a lot about their audio design assumptions and priorities. They have a lot of work to do.
_______________________
David Lawrence
art~media~design~research
propaganda.com
publicmattersgroup.com
facebook.com/dlawrence
twitter.com/dhl -
[David Lawrence] “Of course. OMF when I send to my sound guys.”
OK, and do you sit with the audio guys or are they offsite?
[David Lawrence] “well what’s crazy is 8 months and two updates out they still haven’t managed to provide basics like audio sync markers. What’s up with that?”
Don’t know. Still in the oven.
[David Lawrence] “They have a lot of work to do.”
Come on, dude. FCPX is perfect.
I am just kidding, interwebs.
-
[David Lawrence] “LOL, well what’s crazy is 8 months and two updates out they still haven’t managed to provide basics like audio sync markers. What’s up with that? The fact that something this elementary is missing to begin with says a lot about their audio design assumptions and priorities. They have a lot of work to do.”
Yup. I’m afraid Schadenfreude is not an attractive behaviour pattern but I can’t help being amused at seeing the peerless Apple showing itself to be completely imbecilic over this whole product.
They’ve swum way out of their depth and they don’t really have a clue how to get back to shore. It shouldn’t be funny – but it is.
They obviously massively miscalculated how long it would take to get it into any decent kind of shape, then they panicked and just threw it out there anyway. And funniest of all is that they’re just carrying right on throwing out stuff that is way from ready, from multicam to broadcast monitoring to PSD support, to 10.0.3 itself which is clearly more dysnfunctional than anything we’ve seen so far.
I’m sorry but to me they just look sillier and sillier as time goes by – and I’m loving it.
And I think it is a hugely valuable lesson to us all. No business, however mighty, is infallible. Empires rise. They also fall.
If I have a reason for sticking around and watching, it’s because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good come-uppance.
Simon Ubsdell
http://www.tokyo-uk.com
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up