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FCPX on MBP Retina Display – WOW
Alban Egger replied 13 years, 9 months ago 23 Members · 119 Replies
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Bill Davis
August 4, 2012 at 9:59 pm[Andy Field] “Now if Apple just gets those tracks back and a real time mixer — they’d have a few more converts
“Andy,
Watch out dude.
First you start losing resistance.
Then you start using X every day.
Then you habituate how it works rather than demanding that it work like you used to work.
Then you look up one day and find yourself thinking … “huh – I don’t really spend all that much time anymore thinking in “tracks” – what was I so hung up on?”
Check back with us in 6 months and let us know how much you miss the way you used to edit.
I’ll wager not very much.
Have a great time.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Jerry Hofmann
August 5, 2012 at 1:58 pmAfter using FCP X for a few months, whenever I have to go back to 7, it feels a ton slower. Because It IS slower. X is the fastest NLE in the world, period. If you can use it for the task at hand you’ll do yourself a favor.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Steve Connor
August 5, 2012 at 2:00 pm[Jerry Hofmann] “X is the fastest NLE in the world, period”
They’ll be a few on here that dispute that, I’m not one of them
Steve Connor
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Jerry Hofmann
August 5, 2012 at 2:11 pmTher are jobs it’s not right for no doubt. But with each update those jobs get fewer. For a first release its very exciting.
I don’t miss tracks at all. Everything they accomplished X can accomplish.
Jerry
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Gary Huff
August 5, 2012 at 2:17 pm[Jerry Hofmann] ” After using FCP X for a few months, whenever I have to go back to 7, it feels a ton slower. Because It IS slower. X is the fastest NLE in the world, period. If you can use it for the task at hand you’ll do yourself a favor.”
That’s quite an assertion, but you forgot to include the link to your evidence for that.
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Jerry Hofmann
August 5, 2012 at 3:38 pmPretty simple.
1. You can edit before you’ve complete the import process.
2. You don’t wait on a render to see a preview.
3. The error messages like ‘”clip collisions” are non existant.
4. No transcoding of anything before you start editing. DSLRs anyone?
5. Mixing codecs never slows performance of playback.
6. Smart collections make organization nearly automatic.
7. Renders, if you have to wait on them at all, are not quite twice as fast. 64 bit app…
8. Auditions make the trial and error workflows about 5 times faster.
9. Multicam setup is much faster. Syncing clips is nigh on instant even with a camera which starts and stops all the time.
10. the automatons of the clip analysis save a ton of time, and are far more accurate than the few that existed before.
11. I see the same student learn both X & 7. To a tee, every single one reports FCP X is easier to learn, and gets the job done faster. These are people with no preconceptions at all. I’ve taught about 150 of these people now they all say it’s easier to do the same edit. This is because it’s fewer keystrokes to accomplish the same result. And this is why a lot of pros are scared to death of it. If any one can use it, they believe their jobs are at risk.
Need more?
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Bret Williams
August 5, 2012 at 4:34 pmIt’s all about Sandy Bridge. They even mention it on the X website. Grand central Dispatch harnesses power of Sandy Bridge… That’s why X on recent imacs and MbookPros is outperforming Mac Pros.
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Jerry Hofmann
August 5, 2012 at 4:35 pmI think the best upgrade you can buy in a computer is choosing an SSD for a start up disk.
Jerry
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Shane Ross
August 5, 2012 at 4:47 pm[Jerry Hofmann] “1. You can edit before you’ve complete the import process.”
With Adobe CS6, you don’t need to convert the footage. Import and edit, no Conversion. So it’s a tie there (except no conversion)
[Jerry Hofmann] “2. You don’t wait on a render to see a preview.”
Same with Adobe CS6.
[Jerry Hofmann] “3. The error messages like ‘”clip collisions” are non existant.”
CS6 too
[Jerry Hofmann] “4. No transcoding of anything before you start editing. DSLRs anyone?”
CS6 again also does this
[Jerry Hofmann] ”
5. Mixing codecs never slows performance of playback.”CS6 does this too…
[Jerry Hofmann] “6. Smart collections make organization nearly automatic.”
“nearly?” Don’t you have to label things, take the time to do what it takes to put them into Smart Collections? That’s still manually organizing things.
[Jerry Hofmann] “7. Renders, if you have to wait on them at all, are not quite twice as fast. 64 bit app…”
CS6 again does this as well
[Jerry Hofmann] “8. Auditions make the trial and error workflows about 5 times faster.”
OK, got me there.
[Jerry Hofmann] “9. Multicam setup is much faster. Syncing clips is nigh on instant even with a camera which starts and stops all the time.”
And I admit that the multicam feature in FCX is the best in the world. Saves time when you stupidly (or producers stupidly) shoot multiple cameras and multiple frame rates.
[Jerry Hofmann] “10. the automatons of the clip analysis save a ton of time, and are far more accurate than the few that existed before.”
What do they analyze, and what does that get you? Metadata? How does what it does in that analyze that saves time?
[Jerry Hofmann] “11. I see the same student learn both X & 7. To a tee, every single one reports FCP X is easier to learn, and gets the job done faster. These are people with no preconceptions at all. I’ve taught about 150 of these people now they all say it’s easier to do the same edit. This is because it’s fewer keystrokes to accomplish the same result. And this is why a lot of pros are scared to death of it. If any one can use it, they believe their jobs are at risk.”
OK…now give them footage and a show spec and have them cut a show, deliver the footage to a colorist using Resolve, an AAF/OMF to an audio mixer (with tracks organized in a way that makes it easier on them, not mixed dialog and SFX and music…audio mixers DO work in tracks), and then output to digital file or tape that matches the spec the network is asking for. I bet the learning curve is a bit more. For basic editing, I’m sure they can pick that up. But editing is a lot more than arranging the footage to tell a story. There’s a lot of tech that needs to be done. I guess that’s in the realm of the assistants most of the time, but the editors should know that in order to make it easier on everyone involved in the process.
But now I’m sounding like the old man telling the young farts to “get off my lawn!”
There are more fields in editing than my field. But I feel absolutely fear of people learning and using FCX, as that app is seeing little to no use in what we do. It doesn’t fit in well with what we do. LEVERAGE nonwithstanding….
Shane
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Jerry Hofmann
August 5, 2012 at 5:53 pmThat’s true from my experience. Any i7 machine is fast enough to make you feel good. It’s smooth on the 12 core though too. Graphic cards matter, as does having enough RAM. 7 topped out at less than 3 gigs. X will use all ya can throw at it. For really long form you’d probably want 32gigs at least. it’s another reason it’s fast, it uses all the fastest memory in anybody’s system…
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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