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[Chris Harlan] “I not quite ready to replace “probably” with “eventually,” but yes. I’m looking forward to the coming release. I’m very curious about what’s there.”
The inevitable “Cold Mountain” moment. That, of course, partially happened because the Coens preceded Murch to FCP (and with Apple hand-holding in their case). While, there are certainly features being cut now on X, the Coens appear to have given the nod to Premiere Pro, so we’ll see. I suspect, someone of note is already evaluating – if not already using – X, so it’s likely to be a matter of timing and competing press releases.
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[Steve Connor] “Question to happy FCPX users – do you really care if FCPX is used to make Hollywood movies?
I don’t.”
That’s the thing, right there. What makes it special, makes it less useful in a highly specialized environment, and making fit that environment will, of necessity, make it less special.
The blockbuster movie thing is a fine PR goal, but I would be even more impressed if it were used for open heart surgery.
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[Chris Harlan] “but I would be even more impressed if it were used for open heart surgery.”
I’m really not supposed to say this, but I heard the next version of X will, in fact, be able to perform surgery. It will require a new Mac Pro, an unreleased version of OS X, a lot of Thunderbolt cables, and a Medical degree. But it mostly works.
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[Oliver Peters] “In the end, it is ONLY about story and the software either helps or hinders in putting it together.
– Oliver”
Totally granted.
But it’s also hard to argue that everyone learns their process in the context of how not just their organizational thinking – but the tools they’ve had access to – work. So it’s fair to note that any editor coming from a long established workflow with entrenched muscle memory is going to have a more difficult time breaking and re-learning new practices than someone who doesn’t have those.
There’s nobody I respect more than Mr. Murch. When he was gracious enough to sit and chat with me at NAB a few years ago his dedication not just to editing, but to trying to understand the fundamentals was nearly as impressive as the almost infinite patience he exhibited in doing a nearly endless after Supermeet sit and talk with young editors wishing to chat. He’s a class act. But I suspect (without any evidence to support it other than presumption) that he’d be the first to say that getting too stuck in the tools isn’t always the cleanest path to the results as everything is changing around the industry. His physical cards may remain, or may get supplanted. And the monolithic timeiine with it’s broad, comforting display that’s delighted editors from an era where that was the only option – may not be the only or even the best way to move forward.
After all, pretty hard to bring a “wall of cards” on the airplane if you need to work on something during a long flight.
Just sayin’
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[Bill Davis] “After all, pretty hard to bring a “wall of cards” on the airplane if you need to work on something during a long flight”
The point of the cards is not for the editor, but also for the benefit of director, writer, producers and various parties involved. There’s no way these folks have the same direct understanding of how changes in an edited sequence relate to the flow of the story. I think you are hung up on the cards being tied to organizing media in the software. They are completely unrelated.
Murch has also been a big proponent of building all the metadata from dailies into a big Filemaker database. See image:
https://digitalfilms.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/df_hg_5.jpg
He would love to see this sort of thing integrated into an NLE. So, philosophically, I doubt he has a disconnect with how FCP X function, aside from the editing UI.
Here are the cutting rooms from the last two films.
https://digitalfilms.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/df_hg_7.jpg
https://digitalfilms.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/df_pf_5_lrg.jpg
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I know this is a long thread but I just wanted to add my experience from my first FCPX edited job sent to me for sound post. Being the first I let the editor know that I required an X2Pro AAF and to test it a week out from the deadline.
Nothing. The night before I was told I would get stems from roles as wavs. Hmm not happy. Then next morning an AAF on my ftp. So X2Pro was reluctantly purchased but the lite version. Tried everything to load the AAF including FCP7 via Auto Duck, Premiere CS6, Audition, Lightworks, Avtransfer even da Vinci. Slow loads, files offline and not the correct timeline. In desperation I requested the stems from roles option be sent and just for laughs I tried After Effects. Well blow me down it loaded and I was able to bounce it to Premiere and then make an OMF. Phew we got there but the timeline was a mess spread out over many tracks. Clips certainly not nicely assigned to tracks via Roles as expected.
So before I rush off to say X is ready after two years for prime time, I would like to do some more testing. The reluctance of the editor to shell out for software, the need to buy a third party solution to make basic deliverables… all the broken record comments I have been making were unfortunately bang on on the first outing.
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[Charlie Austin] “I’m really not supposed to say this, but I heard the next version of X will, in fact, be able to perform surgery.”
Exactly what part of Nondisclosure Agreement do yo not understand?!
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[Chris Harlan] “Exactly what part of Nondisclosure Agreement do yo not understand?!”
Wait, I was supposed to read that thing?… lol
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[Michael Gissing] “Tried everything to load the AAF “
What DAW do you mix on?
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