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  • Tony West

    March 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    This is what I said from the beginning was going to happen.

    Quick turn around live sports related stuff like this is right in the X wheelhouse.

    You are going to have more and more people at different levels of production coming forward to say how well X works for them, and that will spur more and more people to use it.

    When you look at the pic of the camera crew they are holding their cams in the shot and none of them look cheap.

    That’s a real crew doing real work.

    Just like our FOX SPORTS producers this year leaving to cover spring training with X in tow.

    He broke down bad stuff about it also. In the end the pros outweighed the cons so he went with it. That’s me.

    I like how he said he wasn’t going back twice hahahaha he couldn’t just say it once : )

    Thanks for posting it.

  • Craig Seeman

    March 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “In the video he implied that the decision to use X wasn’t exactly his.”

    I don’t think he means Apple was the enforcer (but just speculation). He seems to indicate issues that might have occurred with FCP7.

    It certainly would have been interesting if he had the wherewithal (both time and familiarity) to spend some part of the project on FCPX and another on PPro for example.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    March 28, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I’m sure it’s a managerial decision that they need to show feature progress. I’m sure there’s some serious internal “battles” on feature vs stability. They’re getting hit publicly from both sides so I’m sympathetic with the juggle.”

    I’m sure you’re right about the diagnosis but, look, it’s Apple we’re talking about here – an absolute corporate giant – and they can’ get their act together. It’s altogether rather pitiful … or actually quite funny, depending on how you look at it.

    [Craig Seeman] “In fact one could say this is what happens WHEN THEY DO LISTEN”

    I really don’t think the “amazing” 10.0.3 features were in any way a response to a listening process – they clearly aren’t moving at the sort of pace that would mean they could have taken on board any of the post-release commentary. This is surely stuff planned form way back – and they still can’t get it right.

    [Craig Seeman] “they are showing “feature intent””

    Feature intent is all well and good – but how much longer do we have to keep watching and hoping they can put on a plausible show? I think time is starting to run out on this one …

    [Craig Seeman] “[Simon Ubsdell] “Their pants are down around their ankles and it’s not a pretty sight.”

    It depends on how you look at that. I’d argue it’s nice that they’re showing us their stuff at least.”

    That was definitely good for a laugh – thanks!!!! 🙂

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Timothy Auld

    March 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    All the best, Tony.

    Tim

  • Craig Seeman

    March 28, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I’m sure you’re right about the diagnosis but, look, it’s Apple we’re talking about here – an absolute corporate giant – and they can’ get their act together. It’s altogether rather pitiful … or actually quite funny, depending on how you look at it.”

    I think it’s their chosen (yes it’s a choice) resource reality. They are doing the best they can I suspect with what resources the department has. That they’re moving this quickly is impressive . . . and that it’s this sloppy is obviously not. I do think things will get better as they balance things out over time. They are in “hurry up” mode and I think they’ll be that way for the rest of this year but I think as they get to a place they’re comfortable with in the feature set, they’ll be in a better QC state. I don’t think “hurry up” mode will last beyond the year (it better not).

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I really don’t think the “amazing” 10.0.3 features were in any way a response to a listening process”

    I think it’s impacting prioritization and that’s why some things are rushed.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    March 28, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “They are doing the best they can I suspect with what resources the department has. That they’re moving this quickly is impressive”

    I hear what you’re saying and broadly I’m sure you’re right – but is it really true to say that the speed is impressive?

    Multicam, broadcast monitoring, PSD support are not exactly new and exciting things, are they? It’s all fairly basic stuff you’d have expected to be there from day one, not to be limping into view almost a year after the launch. None of these are innovations, they’re staples of the 21st century NLE.

    My concern is based on the evidence that FCPX has been in gestation for a good many years now and it’s still waaaaaaay off the mark. The pace of development looks to be totally unsatisfactory if it’s to draw level with the opposition in any foreseeable timeframe.

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Andy Field

    March 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Tony – how are you dealing with Audio — isn’t it a time vampire rubber banding every single track of audio to get mixes just right – in FCP7 -AVID- Premiere and virtually every other NLE we’ve used in the last decade, there’s a dedicated real time – keyframe recording mixer built in – but not here….that’s a big missing feature.

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

  • Craig Seeman

    March 28, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “My concern is based on the evidence that FCPX has been in gestation for a good many years now and it’s still waaaaaaay off the mark.”

    1.0 applications generally have some time under development before they get out the door in their 1.0 state. FCP legacy took some time as well between Macromedia and Apple.

    Unlike those FCPX probably has deeper ties to AVFoundation and things being developed in the OS as well so it may well be more limited by parallel development of things it needs.

  • Michael Gissing

    March 28, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “It is fair to Compare it to PPRO, Edius, Avid or Vegas, but comparing it to EOL’d software? – Why don’t you compare it to a Steinbeck while your at it.”

    Sorry Herb but my inner pedant is being invoked. None of those NLE’s have written anything so hard to compare to Steinbeck, but Steenbeck is another matter.:)

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    [Jim Giberti] “The speed of grading and unlimited secondaries built into each track.”

    ayes to that, I genuinely do adore the power windows and secondary CC capabilities. For me its one of the whispers of the powerhouse system we dreamed of. I ride FCPX an awful lot on fresh Applestore hardware, and the ability to re-light HD shots in realtime with multiple CC masks, vignettes, and defocus is just an utter blast.

    It’s one piece of the FCPX architecture that instantly delighted me. As an integrated, in context always on attribute – it feels quite transformative.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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