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FCPX Dogs, New Names
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By having FCPX in the forum title there is the inevitable post that belongs in the techniques forum but personally I like the history that was behind this debate forum and I have certainly learnt a lot form the breadth of debate about all NLEs and VFX programs that have been raised here.
So I see no good reason the change the title. Yes the whole thing started when X was fist showcased and yes there certainly was debate and strong arguments. Three years later I see that there is still much to debate. Blackmagic, Adobe and others have made sure there is still much to discuss.
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[Michael Gissing] ” Three years later I see that there is still much to debate. Blackmagic, Adobe and others have made sure there is still much to discuss.”
And what does this have to do with having this as an FCPX Debate forum?
Scott Witthaus
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Reading all the other post in the thread so far, I think you should call this forum…
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Ah, the answer to life, the universe and everything.
Tim
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[Craig Seeman] “Reading all the other post in the thread so far, I think you should call this forum… 42”
You’ve found answers here?
Walter Soyka
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For my $.02 simply dropping the ‘or not’ would be reasonable enough. It’s redundant and adds a negative slant to what is generally a healthy debate about the future of post tools and the human beings using them.
Noah
FCPWORKS – FCPX Workflow
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FCPX? Definitely not.
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[Noah Kadner] “For my $.02 simply dropping the ‘or not’ would be reasonable enough. It’s redundant and adds a negative slant to what is generally a healthy debate about the future of post tools and the human beings using them.”
[Shane Ross] “Are we still debating? The last few threads had nothing to do with FCS or how useful it is. And even the Adobe debate forum is dead. I mean…dead. They don’t even bring up other topics. Here, there are other topics. But not all FCX related. I’d make this a general NLE debate.”
[Scott Witthaus] “In my mind, as I have stated, the debate about FCPX is over, if there was ever was one. You either use it or not….If we need a debate it should be agnostic”
[John Rofrano] “there is no longer a need for a forum to debate the merits of FCP X any more then you should start one to debate the merits of Premiere Pro, Avid, Sony Vegas, etc. Maybe it’s time to archive it and move on?”
[Jeremy Garchow] “I think Andrew Kimery nailed it.”
It seems a theme is developing here, and one which I agree with. I’m an Adobe/Autodesk/Resolve user for most of my workflow, but I come here for the general discussion on the state of the NLE industry, not to discuss whether or not FCPX can edit footage. The debate is over (same with the “Creative Cloud” debate forum). It’s a tool…either use it or don’t.
[Tim Wilson] “I’ve also been thinking a lot about this. Here’s where I’m at right now.”
And I’d be remised if I didn’t give a tip of the hat to Tim’s initial write up. Well stated with some good points to think about, especially the “Apple doesn’t care about Pros” section.
Ryan Holmes
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[Michael Gissing] ” Three years later I see that there is still much to debate. Blackmagic, Adobe and others have made sure there is still much to discuss.”
[Scott Whitthaus]And what does this have to do with having this as an FCPX Debate forum?
It has everything to do with the “or not” part. If you re-read Tim’s opening post you might have understood what the core of the debates on this forum have been about. It may be no longer about whether X can be used at all but there is still room for debate and the “or not” case is the heart of this forum. If you think that this is just a self congratulatory exercise in debate about how wonderful X is for you then you seem to have missed the point. Perhaps we should change the title and take out the FCPX bit to make that more patently clear. But as I said I would prefer to leave that in as it is a statement of history.
Having been on this forum since the start and looking for a working alternative to FCS for my work I still don’t use FCPX for my sort of collaborative post finishing work. Also I have found very few editors who work in my area who have changed to it and the issues of integrating with my workflows still make it a matter of work arounds. I still come here to read the sort of discourse that allows open debate about all NLEs and relative merits in a variety of usage.
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As editors, we’re trained to look at stuff and remove what’s not contributing to the audiences clear understanding of the material.
If, in fact, X is now actually viewed by most here as a viable choice, then the “or not” is superfluous.
And, BTW, I’d apply the same reasoning to the Creative Cloud or Not, the Debate forum.
Simplify them.
FCP X -The Debate
Creative Cloud -The DebateBecause editing for clarity and meaning is useful.
My 2 cents.
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