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[Tony West] “What I am saying is that I want them connected every time by default.”
That’s what I am not entirely convinced about.
Why would you always want to make a clip connection? What benefits are you always getting?
Of course there are cases where it’s useful, but I can’t believe they make up anything like a majority of the instances where you’d use the Connect edit function.
Do you for instance never find it not useful to have the connection automatically made for you?
I’m not saying you’re wrong – I just can’t see it.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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Why on earth would Adobe NOT have a keystroke for this?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “No, Premiere doesn’t emulate FCP X in this respect – the trackless paradigm is always going to have an advantage here. That said, I think a lot of users miss the many interesting but less obvious options for moving and trimming that exist in Premiere, again some of them gestural, that allow for some very sophisticated operations that I have not seen offered elsewhere. Again you can only really understand them by seeing them in action …
“Try holding down the Command key while you are dragging the clip around. You’ll get a ripple insert edit that also closes the gap of where the clip used to be in the timeline.
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[Tony West] ” In your example you brought down a clip with video and audio. By “default” they were not connected. What I am saying is that I want them connected every time by default.”
Tony. pardon me for intruding, but I think you have a misconception. When using the “overlay” method, like any other editing method within Ppro, the default is ALWAYS to have the audio of a clip attached to the video. There is a “button” on the timeline to detach all clips (which I use because that’s my style) but the default mode is always audio attached to video. The only time you have to do things manually by grouping is when you want to keep items from different clips attached to each other.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Tony West] “Follow me?”
Ah, sorry – I didn’t follow you, hence my reply just now.
I think Herb has answered the point though. Video and audio are “connected” in the sense of you have used here unless you unconnect them.*
I was talking more specifically about FCP X “clip connections” created whenever a clip is placed anywhere other than the Primary Storyline. In the video I simply showed you you can replicate the clip connection thing using the Premiere Group function.
* From the manual:
In the Project panel, clips that contain both video and audio appear as a single item. When you add the clip to the sequence, however, the video and audio appear as two objects, each in its appropriate track (provided you specified both the video and audio sources when adding the clip). The video and audio portions of the clip are linked so that when you drag the video portion in a Timeline panel, the linked audio moves with it, and vice versa. For this reason, the audio/video pair is called a linked clip. In a Timeline panel, each part of the linked clip is labeled with the same clip name, which is underlined. The video is marked [V] and the audio is marked [A]. Ordinarily, all editing functions act on both parts of a linked clip. When you want to work with the audio and video individually, you can unlink them. When you do, you can use the video and audio as though they were not linked; even the clip names no longer appear underlined or bear the [V] and [A] labels. Even so, Premiere Pro keeps track of the link. If you relink the clips, they indicate whether they have been moved out of sync, and by how much. You can have Premiere Pro automatically resynchronize the clips. You can also create a link between previously unlinked clips. This is particularly useful if you need to synchronize video and audio that were recorded separately.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Steve Connor] “Why on earth would Adobe NOT have a keystroke for this?”
There are a number of functions in Ppro that are not available for keyboard shortcuts – no rhyme or reason why. That’s what happens when you prioritize creating new features over improving what you already have. After all, VR is used by most editors, isn’t it?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Tony. pardon me for intruding, but I think you have a misconception.”
That’s likely true Herb, and you’re never intruding : )
In the example the video in V2 goes with the audio in A3
When Simon moved those two clips he also selected the video clip that was in V1, so if I understand you, he only needed command G because he selected the video in V1 along with the other clips?
I guess what I’m saying is can you avoid using command G to move the video that is in V2 and it’s audio that is in A3?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Ah, sorry – I didn’t follow you, “
Hum.
I don’t know why it’s that confusing, I’m just going by what you said in your video.
You: ‘By selecting the clips and hitting command G”……….and now those clips are connected”
When you say “and now those clips are connected” that says to me that they were not already connected.
Herb is saying “The only time you have to do things manually by grouping is when you want to keep items from different clips attached to each other.”
I’m saying I don’t want to have to do it manually then either. I’m not doing it in X because that’s the default setup.
You: “Why would you always want to make a clip connection?”
I’m saying I want it to always DEFAULT that way, then I can change it if I want to. The default doesn’t mean I have to leave them that way, as you imply. Default means it starts that way.
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[Tony West] “can you avoid using command G to move the video that is in V2 and it’s audio that is in A3?”
Yes. No need for command G, or anything else for that matter, just grab either the V2 or the A3 part of the clip and move it where you will, and both audio and video will travel together.
However, unlike X, it’s only when editing to the timeline that this “overlay” function prevents overwriting, not when simply moving clips already on the timeline. Clearly this overlay function could be added to moving clips as well, it’s up to Adobe to see if they ever implement that option.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “not when simply moving clips already on the timeline. “
But this is my top priority. Moving things around in timeline quickly.
[Herb Sevush] “Clearly this overlay function could be added to moving clips as well,”
Yes, so it could work and look even more like X : ) just kidding you Herb
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