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Jamie Franklin
August 23, 2011 at 4:39 pmThis argument has been made repeatedly by Apple obsessive compulsive defend to the death crazies…just because a small percentage exists in the community, it’s better to write them off…
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Mike Guidotti
August 23, 2011 at 7:26 pm[Scott Sheriff] “One thing apple could learn from Steenbeck. Steenbeck supports their editor back to models made in 1979. Apple can’t even support something made 3 years ago, let alone 30”
Whammy!
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Herb Sevush
August 24, 2011 at 2:46 amCraig –
I apologize on behalf of the whiners.
Herb Sevush
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Scott Sheriff
August 24, 2011 at 4:02 am[Jamie Franklin] “This product blows.
The more I use it, the more it becomes obsolete and FC7 is looking like the greatest editor ever made…
To take such an enormously helpful tool and turn it into a smudged, self indulgent, paper thin facsimile that rips apart the second you touch it is a failure of epic proportions. Lucas didn’t even ruin Star Wars this bad with his prequels…”
Nice one.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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Scott Sheriff
August 24, 2011 at 4:10 am[Craig Seeman] “As is yours.
DVD as you well know are standard def. The one advantage is menu interactivity.
• I can make playable DVDs and Blu-ray without DVDStudioPro, if all I need are screeners.
• I can deliver HD files playable on computers, tablets, smartphones, that can be viewed on the device or sent to an HDTV in HD.
• I can post HD to the web for that can be used in Flash, Quicktime, Silverlight, WMP12 with a single H.264 .mp4.
• I can FTP the file to the client.
• Heck I can even burn the HD file to an optical disk (DVD or Blu-ray) depending on the size that the client can use as they wish, often in better quality than the heavily compressed MPEG2 of DVD-Video. So one can certainly still have a disc to hand to people where internet connectivity is a problem.So what it comes down to is DVD menu interactivity as far as my anecdotal experience is concerned. If that’s a must then, by all means, authored DVDs are important. Personally, anecdotally, I’m finding that interactivity is not a priority with most of my clients. If they just want to do is view the primary file, usually in HD, the other various methods serve them better.”
But you know what isn’t anecdotal? Authoring DVD’s with menus is a revenue stream (for me). Just another thing you can’t do with X. And then those DVD’s become an additional revenue stream when I run the printing, dupes and packaging.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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Winston A. cely
August 24, 2011 at 2:22 pmI just finished the Ripple Training series on FCPX, and I gotta say I can’t wait to start using FCPX for actual broadcast projects. If I had not done the training, I would have bought a ticket to Cupertino and gone on a killing spree. Nothing in FCPX acts like it’s legacy versions, and therefor all my experience in how to operate an NLE was more or less useless. I would have fumbled around for days trying to figure out how to do something, and once I found it, would have screamed because it’s not the way I thought it should be done. That’s pretty dang frustrating, but after going through the training series, everything that’s been changed makes way more sense to me as an editor and story teller (granted I don’t really consider making infomercials “story telling” lol).
Sure there are some asinine things, like not being able to export OMFs for a sound mix, or bringing in legacy FCP projects. FCP7 works fine now and will for at least another year, and on the rare occurrence I need to go back to one of those old shows, I’ll use FCP7. Big damn deal.
Of course, the OMFs, XMLs, EDLs, are part of what make FCPX not yet ready for prime time, but I have confidence (for the time being, anyway) that they’ll show up eventually. As it’s been said many times before, time will tell.
Personal opinion for me is that if more people went through a couple training sessions with FCPX they might be more open to it’s possibilities. However, I know it’s never a fun idea to think you have to relearn a skill set (in this case how to operate an application) just to continue doing what you’ve been doing for so long already. Then again, that’s precisely what it sounds like most everyone is going to do anyway as they move to Smoke, AVID, or other NLE from FCP.
Winston A. Cely
Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLCMac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
8 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 3 | Aja Kona LHe“If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling illusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick
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Herb Sevush
August 24, 2011 at 2:27 pm“if more people went through a couple training sessions with FCPX they might be more open to it’s possibilities. However, I know it’s never a fun idea to think you have to relearn a skill set (in this case how to operate an application) just to continue doing what you’ve been doing for so long already. Then again, that’s precisely what it sounds like most everyone is going to do anyway as they move to Smoke, AVID, or other NLE from FCP.”
My question is why did you choose FCPX to learn, why not Avid or PPro?
What is the advantage you get that off-sets the lacking features?Herb Sevush
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Winston A. cely
August 24, 2011 at 2:38 pm• First and foremost is cost. I won’t lie, a $300 app is a steal, and if FCPX turned out to be a disaster for me, I’d have a year or two to save up the cash to buy Premiere or AVID.
• I use Motion almost exclusively for titling and graphics, so the workflow would be a better match for me.
• This sorta goes with the cost, but I was simply curious with how FCP had evolved and the only way to form an opinion I could trust was to use it.
• I’ve always been attracted to the idea of workstations that are built in a cohesive manner. Meaning, the hardware and software are built by the same company. Although I never used the AVID machines that sorta embodied this idea, I still find it appealing. Maybe because it gives me the simi-false security that things play nice together.
• And certainly there’s a loyalty facet to it as well as far as Apple is concerned.
Winston A. Cely
Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLCMac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
8 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 3 | Aja Kona LHe“If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling illusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick
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