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  • Craig Seeman

    August 23, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    [Scott Sheriff] “I do them on every job. Seen plenty of posts from others saying the same thing. Your experience is anecdotal, at best.”

    As is yours.

    DVD as you well know are standard def. The one advantage is menu interactivity.
    • I can make playable DVDs and Blu-ray without DVDStudioPro, if all I need are screeners.
    • I can deliver HD files playable on computers, tablets, smartphones, that can be viewed on the device or sent to an HDTV in HD.
    • I can post HD to the web for that can be used in Flash, Quicktime, Silverlight, WMP12 with a single H.264 .mp4.
    • I can FTP the file to the client.
    • Heck I can even burn the HD file to an optical disk (DVD or Blu-ray) depending on the size that the client can use as they wish, often in better quality than the heavily compressed MPEG2 of DVD-Video. So one can certainly still have a disc to hand to people where internet connectivity is a problem.

    So what it comes down to is DVD menu interactivity as far as my anecdotal experience is concerned. If that’s a must then, by all means, authored DVDs are important. Personally, anecdotally, I’m finding that interactivity is not a priority with most of my clients. If they just want to do is view the primary file, usually in HD, the other various methods serve them better.

  • Jamie Franklin

    August 23, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    This product blows.

    The more I use it, the more it becomes obsolete and FC7 is looking like the greatest editor ever made…

    To take such an enormously helpful tool and turn it into a smudged, self indulgent, paper thin facsimile that rips apart the second you touch it is a failure of epic proportions. Lucas didn’t even ruin Star Wars this bad with his prequels…

  • Jamie Franklin

    August 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    BS

    Pure and simple.

    I just finished a film that required 30 deliveries, and counting, ALL requiring DVD submissions, screeners for producers and the director. While it may be a “standard” on it’s way out…it’s not getting it’s plug pulled anytime soon, it will be a slow bleed out, and is still very much a requirement in this field.

    That’s one project. Just because we “can” produce other methods, is by no means, no where near, not even in the same galaxy, as a dead delivery method.

    Good grief…”interactivity”…PUHlease. It’s very cost effective…or maybe I should bleed my budget delivering betacam, hdcam…paying $5 a gig to my service provider on overages….

  • Craig Seeman

    August 23, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    [Jamie Franklin] “ALL requiring DVD submissions, screeners for producers and the director.”

    Depending on what you mean by “screeners” that doesn’t require advanced menu authoring. If you read what I wrote, screeners, both DVD and Blu-ray are still easy to do.

  • Craig Seeman

    August 23, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    So good to see well substantiated comments (sarcasm). You might spend time reading Alban’s posts. The difference between yours and his is that he substantiates his opinions with detailed experience and comparisons between FCPX and FCP7.

  • Rainer Wirth

    August 23, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    We as a company deliver 99% data for TV and industry. So most of the stuff is either on USB stick, or Harddisc. Some of the shows go on DVD. Mostly because the producer is used to the old DVD player. Others want a wmv to watch. This was totally different 5 years ago. Blu Ray is no option, because a stick can contain more data and can be used again. So I think in one years time the DVD as a medium is dying. The same with tape. Our workflow is tapeless since 7 years. Our expensive tape machines are used perhaps 10 times a year. So why developing something you won’t need in the near future?
    And for old stuff or archives you can set up a cheap workstation with any old programme to capture the stuff, or you service it out.
    So to me Motion, compressor and FCP is efficient as a package. The only thing I would like in addition is color.

    Rainer

  • Craig Seeman

    August 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    [Rainer Wirth] “So to me Motion, compressor and FCP is efficient as a package. The only thing I would like in addition is color.”

    I’d also add SoundTrack Pro.

    Apple’s challenge is whether to decide to build in all these features (Color, STP) or otherwise work on better file connectivity. STP now exists as part of Logic and some would now like to send to Davinci Resolve. Of course better self contained tools are important for smaller jobs.

    I understand why some must have tape support as video for older projects may be needed well past a decade. I can also understand why that’s not efficient use of Apple’s R&D because resources used in one area may not be used in an area with a broader need. Certainly improved tape in is being worked on by AJA, Blackmagic, Matrox. As to output it’ll be interesting to see if the HDCAM SR tape scarcity is going to foment other forms of delivery. Sometimes I wonder if LTO might become a better tape/data delivery method having advantages of both.

  • Jamie Franklin

    August 23, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    The buckets of water you carry for Apple getting too heavy?

  • Jamie Franklin

    August 23, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Calling his post “anecdotal” and having “one advantage”…

    I read what you wrote just fine

  • Rainer Wirth

    August 23, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    I agree, I forgot soundtrack pro.
    But with no proper monitoring, editing to me is not possible. So I need monitoring via Aja. I think if apple listens we’ll get a great piece of software in 1 years time. The relinking capabilities of FCPX should be much better. Often I store the material on HD and need relinking when I rebuild a project. This seems tricky, if not impossible in X.
    And thanks to Alban. Never read something more substantial on X than this blog.

    Rainer

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