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FCPX and college students pro cons?
So we at BYU Idaho are looking at FCPx and also other NLE to teach and use on this campus.
I would love it if you guys who are using FCPX and maybe even those who aren’t but are much smarter than i could help me compile a Pros cons list for FCPX when it comes to teaching students and using this software in a large lab/multi user environment.
Q little background. We would have 35 seats of fcpx all connected to a central Nas server for files and projects to live. For higher end projects and classes. Another 50 seats would be in an open lab where students would use their own log-ins to access the Macs, video and project storage would ideally be there on personal hard drives. This would be for lower end classes or personal projects. Then we have 12 High end edit suites (think any professional edit suit) for use on University level projects (commercials, online classes, institutional projects ect.)
So in your all expert opinions what are the pros and cons
Mike Jeffs
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Pros:
New media organization works well for facilities where students carry their own personal drives.
FCPX likely easy to learn for students not tied down to a specific NLE workflow.
Agnostic timeline and render speeds very helpful for students who are under deadline and not well organized. Media handling can help here too.
Cons:
FCPX works in a SAN environment, but I don’t think is workable in a NAS environment at this time.
FCPX has likely low market penetration in the post field and its unclear how much that will change in the next couple of years. If the goal is to prepare students to cut in the “real” world, its a gamble.
FCPX is still on its first version and therefore not very stable. Be ready for LOTS of tech support.
I’m sure there are plenty more pros/cons out there…
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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id say the biggest “con” is teaching something to kids, that might not help them at all in the real world. Its too early to tell if the industry will adopt it.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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I’ll echo Neil. You will want to teach an editing application that is in use in the market the students want to go into. The current outlook for FCX being used in the broadcast TV market, news market and film market is slim to zero. Avid is more the standard…and Adobe Premiere might fill the hole left by FCP7 being discontinued.
But it all depends on what they all plan on editing in the future. But if it is broadcast TV, news or feature films, learning FCX will only hurt their chances. As the editing methodology it uses is vastly different than the methods currently used.
Shane
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To add to this, the terminology FCX employs is vastly different than the rest of the post world. Most likely this will cause communication problems when trying to use another app.
Shane
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Another con to consider is the 12 high-end edit suites. At this point in time you probably don’t want these to be FCP X. This would mean that none of the FCP X projects as yet, would easily migrate to the high-end suites.
As far as the network, you would probably need to have all machines keep Projects and Events local. As I understand it, after the update, only one FCP X user can access an Events folder on a common network volume at a time. You could have Events local and then have multiple users link to common media on a SAN or NAS.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Likewise, FCX has such a radically different paradigm, it would be difficult for people trained on it to migrate to Avid or Premiere. However once you learn either Avid or Premiere, it’s fairly easy to retrain on the other.
However, it might be fun to have a few seats of FCX for the star students who pick the stuff up very quickly, and get a little bored with the status quo. I’d venture to say that even poor college students could afford the $299 to play with FCX.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
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Great stuff so far. Do any of my mind if i quote you in a presentation I need to give to the university on friday?
Mike Jeffs
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I started a thread a few months ago called What does FCPX teach new editors? [link].
I don’t think it directly answers your questions, but there was some pretty good conversation in there that you might find useful.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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[Mark Morache] ” I’d venture to say that even poor college students could afford the $299 to play with FCX.”
Of course, just as a point of comparison… For the same money, they can also own a full version of Media Composer, including the third party software bundle. Complete with 4 years of software updates and tech support.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “Of course, just as a point of comparison… For the same money, they can also own a full version of Media Composer, including the third party software bundle. Complete with 4 years of software updates and tech support.”
That’s quite a deal. Wish they had that when I was in college.
4 years of updates? Really? AND tech support. Feels like it’s a long way from the days of the very expensive Meridian box, and the very expensive licensing that I was using when I learned Avid.
I’d say we have Final Cut Pro to thank for the smart prices. And now we have FCP to thank for the mass migration away from Apple.
What a world.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com
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