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FCP7 Media Management
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[Jason Brown] “Yea, I got that…but when you turn the visible icon back on…Render is gone?”
I remember the first time I experienced that warning dialog. I was SHOCKED that a sophisticated tool like FCP was too stupid to remember render files. It’s an interesting argument we’ve been having about FCP for many years. Walter’s logic is sound but it still doesn’t let Apple off the hook. The fact that FCP forgets renders IIRC seems to be based on its legacy media management code, code that does not allow for what many of us regard as fundamental media intelligence. It is apparently the same underlying programming issue that has plagued Media Manager from the very beginning. Stuff just gets lost so it’s easier for FCP to deliberately forget it.
Turning a track on and off should require nothing more than a quick file inventory scan and comparison. Media 100 had no trouble remembering which renders needed to be changed and which did not. I’ve never used Avid and it’s been years since I opened Premiere but I’ve heard this is simply not an issue on either because of how the media files are tracked in the applications.
Since we’ve been screaming about this for many years, it either cannot be fixed or FCP’s team has decided it’s not necessary to fix.
bogiesan
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[Wayne Carey] “Its never copied across any of my artwork, music files or Motion projects.”
I have a different experience. When I consolidate a sequence all of the files associated with the project are copied including graphics, music, motion, etc. I often hand off these “trimmed projects” to my clients that have FCP without having to do anything else. Of course I check the trimmed project to be sure all the correct media is in the timeline.
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[Lee Berger] “When I consolidate a sequence all of the files associated with the project are copied including graphics, music, motion, etc.”
I concur. I media manage footage from our group SAN to my local drives. I get all the video files, audio files, music, still images…everything. And this is with FCP 6.0.5! Speed Changes get wonky with FCP 6, but when I tested FCP 7 yesterday on a sequence with speed changes, they held their speed. That is a significant improvement.
Shane
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What a great post. I’ve only been using FCP for a couple months now. And the first time this happened, I thought I was doing something wrong…because I was certain that a tool with SUCH professional features would completely miss the boat on this.
I was an AVID editor for about 10 years and when I first experienced FCP, I was excited. It offers so much more flexibility than the AVID timeline…and seems like I could get to be as fast at cutting with it.
But there are a few small things like this that will keep FCP from destroying it’s competitors until it gets fixed.
It’s like my complaint with AVID that you can’t use blending modes with layers (at least not with my version of MediaComposer). I guess they (software) all have their frustrating parts!
What a good discussion, hopefully someone is listening!
-Jason
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OH, and instead of toggling the ENTIRE video track and losing ALL of those renders, sequence wide, I think it would be good to learn the trick to toggle off and on individual media on the timeline, Control-B. I use that a lot.
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1761
Shane
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Yea, that’s what John said…helpful workflow tip. Thanks guys.
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I gotta say I’ve never really had any problem with the Media Mangler outside of the well known issues its had in the past, especially with speed effected media. I’ve used it to consolidate many projects for archive (including all associated media) without issue.
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Yeah, and another good technique is if you have a longer clip in the timeline that overlaps with a section, say at the beginning of the clip – with a portion of the sequence that is really long to render, and you only want to animate attributes at the end of the clip, just cut the clip near the end so when you make changes to it or disable that clip, it doesn’t make you render out all of the stuff overlayed at the beginning of the clip.
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