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  • Bret Williams

    September 25, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Have you seen Resolve 11? It’s much closer to FCP than Premiere will ever be. I’ve been wondering if they bought FCP legacy from Apple because it has so many of the same conventions. Even more so with the .1 update.

  • David Mathis

    September 25, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Yes. Just got a liitle too excited. Going to sit in the corner now. 😉

    camera operator | editor | production assistant

    Remember kids, tracks are you friends when you charge by the hour. Track Tetris, game on!

  • Bret Williams

    September 25, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Are you still getting choppy playback? Mine was cured with Apple OSX update months ago. You still can’t move the mouse during playback, which is an issue for adjusting audio on the fly, but I wouldn’t call that a choppy playback problem.

  • David Mathis

    September 25, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    I am ruining Resolve on a older mid 2012 Mac Pro. Could explain my experience.

  • Bret Williams

    September 25, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Possibly, since the 2012 is the same machine as the 2010, except with a very small processor bump. I’m running on the 2012 iMac. It was horrible at playback. But there was some issue I read about with 9.5.3 or something that was fixed. Seems good now. Gets about the same RT layers / fx as other NLEs it seems. But I’m no expert. I just go over there to play around with it every once in awhile to see how it’s coming along.

  • Andy Field

    September 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    I’ve been on Premiere Pro since FCP 7”s EOL…..it gets better and more FCP7 like with each new upgrade…and with the one expected soon – will be even better (trans code and consolidate…something FCP 7 had for years will now be available in Premiere Pro CC.)

    If you loved FCP 7….you will feel right at home in PP – in fact it does many things so much better – any format frame size speed – just toss in timeline – it works…no trans code on input – edit right off a P2 card or XDCAM Disk if you’d like….it will read and play back the files….only render and trans code happens when you’re done with the edit.

    Round trip to AE and Audition….auto changes show up from illustrator and photoshop (although i think they did in FCP 7 too)

    There are some small, sometimes annoying differences. People get thrown by “where’s the drop shadow and crop?….Color Correction is WAY different…take the time to learn that many built into the viewer Motion tab tools are now filters….and once you get used to the slider bars in Color Correction, you will love them.

    No need to re-create FCP 7 – Adobe’s already done it.

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

  • Oliver Peters

    September 25, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Another example is Lightworks. Look how long it has taken them to get a stable version for Mac and that’s starting from an existing product. In addition, not everything inside FCP “legacy” was owned by Apple. Some of it was licensed and that would either have to be licensed again or built from scratch. That’s part of the reason things like EDL and OMF export don’t exist in FCP X.

    I would say that doing a brand new professional-grade NLE from scratch (not modifying a currently working product) would take 3-5 years, before you’d have a solid product. That’s with a brilliant set of coders on board.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Ronny Courtens

    September 25, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    …it gets better and more FCP7 like with each new upgrade…

    Funny, that’s exactly why we decided NOT to use Premiere at our facility (-: We intentionally went for something different, for better or for worse, and still no regrets whatsoever.

    – Ronny

  • David Mathis

    September 25, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I would say that doing a brand new professional-grade NLE from scratch (not modifying a currently working product) would take 3-5 years, before you’d have a solid product. That’s with a brilliant set of coders on board.”

    Agreed. I think during that time period FCP X was growing and becoming a more established NLE, it has come a very long way. I think another a year or so it will be even more solid.

    Looks like this is what is going on with Resolve as well, though editing features have been added in the last 2 or 3 versions to an already existing product. All of which is why I think in the next version or so it could be a nice mixture of FCP 7, FCP X and Color all in one package. I sincerely hope Fusion stays as a separate application and does not get “blended” into Resolve. Otherwise there will be a steep learning curve and a awkward looking interface.

    Oliver, would love to hear your thoughts on Lightworks and the direction it might take. As always, thank you for your contribution and comments.

  • Oliver Peters

    September 25, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    [David Mathis] “would love to hear your thoughts on Lightworks and the direction it might take”

    I haven’t really played with it myself, yet. I have looked at earlier versions and know the folks at EditShare. It’s a very solid NLE with a lot of heritage, but it is designed for cutting and not necessarily all the things we expect of an all-in-one NLE these days. I don’t realistically see it garnering a large market share.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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