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  • FCP7, DV/DVCPRO setting – experiencing major render problems

  • Jessica Jones

    November 27, 2013 at 9:27 am

    I recently started working on a short documentary film that was mainly shot in SD and had been previously edited in Final Cut 7 with the following specs:

    Compressor Settings:
    29.97 fps
    720×480
    DV/DVCPRO – NTSC
    3.6 MB/sec
    NTSC – CCIR601
    Field Dominance – Lower (even)

    Sequence Settings:
    29.95 fps
    720×480
    DV/DVCPRO – NTSC
    NTSC – CCIR601
    Field Dominance – Lower (even)
    2 outputs
    48.0 kHz
    32-bit floating point

    I essentially picked up where the former editor stopped working years ago. The main problem that I’m running into is that now, we are adding HD footage to the sequence (mainly stock footage, though also some footage shot on the 7D), and I’m wondering what the best compression settings is for HD footage that will be used in an SD sequence.

    I know this isn’t the most ideal situation, but we’re almost through the film at this point, and I assume there isn’t a smooth way to change the project from SD to HD?

    So back to my original workflow question – I’m trying to somewhat decrease the amount of rendering that I have to do; I know there will be a little, but is there a compression setting for HD footage that is most compatible with the previously mentioned settings? I’ve been using AppleProRes 422 and Apple – DV/DVCPRO – NTSC trying to see if one works better than the other and I’m not having much luck.

    Maybe there is no work around for this issue? I’m just rendering all the time…

    Any input or suggestions for a better workflow without having to completely re-do the project is much appreciated.

    Thanks!

  • Eric Strand

    November 27, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Are you getting a green render bar or a red render bar? Is the stock footage H.264? FCP doesn’t play well with H.264, but you say you’re using ProRes so you should be getting a green render bar if you drop a HD ProRes clip into the SD timeline.

  • John Fishback

    November 27, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    FCP doesn’t scale well so it might make sense to use Compressor to move the HD to SD (using the same SD settings and be sure to turn on Frame Controls in Compressor and set Re-size to Best). Then you should have no renders. Although, Compressor may take a while to transcode the footage.

    John

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  • Shane Ross

    November 27, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    John is on the nose. I onlined a show that was mainly shot DV, but then later shot on the 5D…and they wanted an HD release. So I used the Media Manager to trim down the DV footage to all that was used in the cut (I separated it first from everything else), then used Compressor to blow it up to HD…custom frame size…1440×1080 square pixel. This maintains the 4:3 aspect ratio. I then scaled up and pan and scanned each shot manually….so I could frame the region of interest better.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Mark Suszko

    November 29, 2013 at 12:42 am

    And the two different fps setting are not an issue?

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