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  • Posted by Arty Gold on January 24, 2006 at 11:09 pm

    just got the new studio
    we are on 4.5 right now…
    i have three machines
    a g-5 2.7 dual (tiger)
    a g-5 2.0 dual
    and a
    g-4 1.5 dual

    after researching this site…i’m not feeling great about the whole process or the program…
    can i install just motion 2 and soundtrack 2 without the new fcp or are they all a family.

    also…if i clean install the operating systems and then add fcp….will i have to go back and reinstall every application and program i have ?

    just want to cover my basis before i have to send out a creative cow urgent message !

    thanks

    Ben Oliver replied 20 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 24, 2006 at 11:37 pm

    Not sure about just installing the components. I mean, they will install separately and all, but how they will interact with FCP 4.5…don’t think they will very well, seeing as they are designed for FCP 5.

    And yes, a clean install means wiping the system drive clean and installing everything fresh. Best option if you are going from Panther to Tiger and from FCP 4.5 to FCP 5.

    Shane Ross
    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • David Roth weiss

    January 25, 2006 at 12:04 am

    Better option — get yourself a new hard drive and and build that one as your new system drive. Keep the old one for a while for good measure until you’re certain everthing works and you have everything off the old one that you need. You can boot from either drive very easiliy.

    DRW

  • Arty Gold

    January 25, 2006 at 12:38 pm

    so what your saying is to upgrade my three systems could take me days !

    argh

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 25, 2006 at 12:52 pm

    [arty] “so what your saying is to upgrade my three systems could take me days !”

    To do the upgrade correctly, yes. I allocate three days for a full system upgrade whenever making a major change to the OS or Final Cut Pro. I always start out by erasing the hard drive and installing / updating everything from scratch.

    If you want a properly working system, this is how you do it. Been doing it this way for over four years and each time I have a stable working system when it’s completed.

    The real key is to update everything as you go, not at the end. Install the OS, run all the updates. Install each updated hardware driver one at a time and restart after each install. Install FCP, run all the updates and then launch each app to ensure they run. Install each other piece of software, run their updates and launch them.

    By doing it in a step by step progression, you’ll be able to know what you did last in the event that the system does not boot up properly or crashes on you. If you simply install everything at once and then have a problem, you have no idea what triggered the problem.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

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  • Debe

    January 25, 2006 at 3:00 pm

    I agree with Walter’s suggestions.

    From my own observations, the folks who come here in a panic because their newly upgraded system is freaking out on them did not do what Walter suggests. It usually takes quite a few back-and-forths before they admit that they did a slap-dash upgrade because they didn’t think they had the time to do it properly, and hoped that it’d just be ok.

    What they didn’t think about is how long it could take them to unravel it after doing an improper install procedure. They end up spending way more time than they would have doing it correctly in the first place trying to figure out why it’s wigging out on them. Most of the time, they end up trashing the install and starting over anyway.

    I waited with 2 boxes of upgrades in my office for months until I had the time. I’m only halfway done. I still have my laptop to go to upgrade to FCP Studio.

    It may seem like a lot of time, but it’s so worth it. After you spend the time, and then spend some time here reading all of the “horror stories”, you’ll get this odd feeling of “Wow, I don’t have those problems!”, feeling empathy for those who do, and wondering why yours just works, and eventually you’ll realize that it’s because you did a proper upgrade!

    debe

  • Arty Gold

    January 25, 2006 at 5:05 pm

    but doesn’t that just make you feel like if your system’s running fine why upgrade ?

    just a question…because i feel like if it ain’t broke don’t fix it…might apply here.

  • Debe

    January 25, 2006 at 5:22 pm

    I needed to upgrade because I work with other folks who use FCP 5. I need to be able to effortlessly move projects between systems. All the systems need to match.

    If you don’t have that issue, and you don’t need the added benefits of FCP 5, Motion 2, or SoundTrack Pro, then upgrading isn’t necessarily the best option.

    But if you have to do it, it makes way more sense to do it right the first time.

    debe

  • Ben Oliver

    January 25, 2006 at 7:58 pm

    also…. dont forget to repair your permissions a lot, inbetween installs. and i believe you need to have your tiger disc, and boot from that to work properly nowadays.

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