FCP5 workflow in large TV enviroment….why we NEED mixed formats in timeline…APPLE???

[Shane Ross]

Get a capture card. Capture all your sources as one type THRU the card. DV for offline, or better yet OFFLINE RT, then recapture at 8-bit uncompressed (all your HDV, DVCAM, Beta, whathaveyou) and then everything will be one codec…for offline and online.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Shane Ross] “Get a capture card.”

Yep, that’s the best advice, capture everything to whatever format you need to master out to and there you go. CineWave is still the only product that can mix codecs and formats on the same timeline in realtime and that’s history now.

You could also use the AJA Io if your end product is SD. The Kona LH would probably work well for you as it offers both SD and HD on the same card with both Digital and Analog I/O.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
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[Michael Horton]

Just a FYI and I dont recommend this, with Dynamic RT turned on you can play mixed formats on the fly in same timeline with FCP 5. Plays a bit choppy in places but plays. Kind of fun at parties

Michael Horton
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[Mark Raudonis]

Paul,

[Paul] “endering the but over the whole show really sucks badly and is a huge bottleneck for this situation….”

I assume you meant “bug”. If this is the only bottleneck in your workflow, take a page out of the old school and key the bug with an outboard switcher as you output to tape. If you’re working with extreme deadlines, then perhaps FCP isn’t the right tool for the job. Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.

mark

[Aaron Owen]

Black Magic’s Decklink comes with a live key tool that seemed like it would work great for bug placement…..I think that the workflow was fairly similar to what was suggested earlier in this thread about taking a page from the old school…if you take a signal into the card, and use the tool to overlay a graphic ontop of the signal live and take the output live to a tape making the decklink like a switcher with a key….

I’m not too sure about this, but when I glanced at this tool when I first installed my decklink that’s the first application I thought of for that program….FCP is great, but if you have to deal with layering multiple graphics over an entire show, do it the old school way.

[Nick B]

‘we are under extreme deadlines and the shows have tons of effects and such.”

Well thats your problem your trying to achieve so much on let me guess a ‘low budget’.

[Paul Harb]

Hey Walter,

Actually I am trying to create a workflow at a new start up network, and we will be delivering as MPEG2 files with muxed audio…whole other issue still trying to work out. Everything we shoot is in HDV, then we capture it as DV (dont ask me why, it was decided before I got here to use HDV) we get our graphics from our grfx dept as animation codecs, and we really dont have the time in our workflow to do offline/ online. OPh ya, and I have 9 edit bays, and one AJA io. So we bring in everything with the new Sony HDV decks, but as DV. SO I guess for my workflow it is almost better just to edit as we are, then when picture is locked and ready for export, we copy to uncompressed timeline…ouch sounds like it will degrade the picture a bit, but is this my best bet? Guess my point to the post was that it sure would be nice to just be able to put in an animation codec encoded graphic and not have it rendered to DV in a DV timeline…..I think I even heard Adobe Premeire can do this now….is this true….if so, what is Apple waiting for???

Paul

[Paul Harb]

Riiiiggghhhhtttt, this is what we are going to do, but I guess the point of the rant was just that this is really a huge feature that now as I understand it even Premiere can do it, so Im just saying that I really hope that Apple gives us this feature soon. I dont think Im the only one that wants this badly…..

Paul

[Paul Harb]

Gee, what a shock……

Paul

[Shane Ross]

Yes, Premiere can do this…but Premiere can’t do so many things that FCP can…things that a Broadcast show needs.

Name one show on TV right now edited with Premiere. There might be a few, but Avid and FCP dominate for obvious reasons, and the lack of one small feature shouldn’t be your breaking point.