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  • FCP4 scrub as an effect

    Posted by Roger on August 10, 2005 at 3:53 am

    I’d like to create a scrub-like effect with a piece of video. I tried speeding it up and adding a strobe filter, and while that was on the right track, it was too uniform.

    Any idea how to get a more random look?

    If it was possible in motion or AE, I could do it there too.

    Regards,

    Roger

    Chuck Weatherall replied 20 years, 9 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    August 10, 2005 at 4:39 am

    You could always record scrubbing onto a tape.

  • Spakuloid

    August 10, 2005 at 6:34 am

    This is exactly when Midi device control of keyframe parameters and speed effects – from inside FCP – would be fantastic. You hook up a midid control surface via USB to your computer – assign whatever feects to your control knobs from inside FCP – and then play your timeline and mix your visuals in real time.

    Motion 2 has this – as do all of the soundtrack and audio aps — but it would be cool to have it available in FCP as well. Speed ramping to music and feeling it out in real time instead of keyframing it and tweaking by hand is the future.

    -Spak

  • Kevin Monahan

    August 10, 2005 at 6:37 am

    ha! That idea is actually in my book!

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • David Scott

    August 10, 2005 at 7:43 am

    Hi
    I created an interesting “rewind the prog” effect simply by making a quicktime of the programme, and returning it to the timeline with a reverse 2000 speed change. Next live capturing a piece of black tape being shuttled in the player to give random thin white horizontal lines. Then simply luma keyed it over the footage on the timeline.
    Is this similar to what you mean by scrub?
    David Scott

  • Tom Matthies

    August 10, 2005 at 1:28 pm

    I did exactly the same thing for a training video a few months ago and it looked pretty realistic. It’s funny. Editing in the digital world and the cloent still wants to see rewinding tape. I also added the sound in reverse to the clip as well.
    All I did for the tape effect was capture a blacked Betacam tape while in fast shuttle. I luma keyed this over the video which was in fast reverse as well.
    It looked realistic and allowed match frame edits from the formerly still framed shot going into the rewind effect.
    Tom

  • Chuck Weatherall

    August 10, 2005 at 2:12 pm

    https://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/

    SnapZ would allow you to create a QT out of your Canvas.

    “Where ever you go, there you are.”

  • Roger

    August 11, 2005 at 1:15 am

    Even when I scrub in FCP4 on a fully loaded G5, the dv output only updates when I stop for a moment. I have no analog output. So I couldn’t just record it on the output stream (that would be too easy!). Am I missing something else?

  • Roger

    August 11, 2005 at 1:19 am

    Snapz looks cool, but I wanted to go with the full resolution of the original.

  • Roger

    August 11, 2005 at 1:25 am

    Capturing a tape in shuttle mode is a great idea for this effect, thanks david and tom. I still want a choppier video look than I can get with a time change, though.

    I’m gonna try and write an applescript for quicktime pro that grabs frames in a more random way than the strobe effect.

    Regards,

    Roger

  • Bret Williams

    August 11, 2005 at 4:45 am

    Well you’ve got something drastically wrong. Even my 604e running EditDV in the old days output in real time to the DV while scrubbing. And FCP does too. Exactly what you’re seeing in the canvas. You possibly have a canvas setting wrong. Turn off all overlays obviously since they require rendering. That’s probably your issue.

    You know you actually can randomize the strobe effect if you don’t like it. Just keyframe it. If it’s not a keyframeable parameter, chop up your clip randomly, and apply different strobe settings to each chunk.

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