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FCP X Working Perfectly – Love It!
Chris Harlan replied 14 years, 10 months ago 16 Members · 55 Replies
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Craig Seeman
July 17, 2011 at 4:38 pm[Mike Chedwick] “Anyone who says “FCP X Working Perfectly” is disingenuous”
Maybe it has for the features they’ve tried, used, needed.
Perfection might mean stability (not everyone is getting crashes). It might mean it does everything they need to do to get their particular job done.We have no idea how limited or expansive the project was that it was used to edit. The evaluation might be limited rather than disingenuous.
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Chris Jacek
July 17, 2011 at 5:37 pm“My mindset is, no matter what – I am going to make FCP X work for me. A mindset that some can’t seem to comprehend.”
I think the incomprehensible part is the “no matter what.” It would be foolish to mindlessly follow whatever Apple tells us to do, just because they are Apple. Most of the people who are complaining, are doing so because they have been fiercely loyal to Apple. They are/were fiercely loyal because Apple always handled things in a particular way, which many of us believe has changed in recent years. You can count me as one of those people.
As I read the market, there is a strong likelihood that neither FCP7 or FCPX will be the dominant editing software in the near future, at least not in the professional market. I believe Apple will continue to develop FCPX to have mass appeal, and have already turned their back on FCP7. They will not spend significant resources to make FCPX a high-end professional application (like FCP7, Premiere, and Avid). It is not close to that now, and it would cost quite a bit to get it there. There’s no real profit motive to do that.
Sean, I think the danger in your mindset is that you may be willing to live and die with FCPX, but as you mentioned, many are in great disagreement with you. The majority will drive the market in whatever direction they want, and it you stick with FCPX, you will start to lose relevancy in the market. Just ask anyone who exclusively hitched their horse to Fast, Media 100, or Amiga.
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Sean Thomas
July 17, 2011 at 5:48 pm[Chris Jacek] “Sean, I think the danger in your mindset is that you may be willing to live and die with FCPX, but as you mentioned, many are in great disagreement with you. The majority will drive the market in whatever direction they want, and it you stick with FCPX, you will start to lose relevancy in the market. Just ask anyone who exclusively hitched their horse to Fast, Media 100, or Amiga.”
Mindsets can change. For now, I’m going to use FCP X on a project. What’s the big deal. I still have 7 if it doesn’t work out. I will not loose relevance in the market because I use X.
I too hitched my horse to M100, when it was dead I went to FCP. When FCP was almost dead, I went to FCP X. FCP 7 will be phased out as X becomes more mature. It’s a migration process, not a “on the day that Apple released FCP X, my life ended” situation.
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Sean Thomas
July 17, 2011 at 5:51 pmAgain, someone applying their views and truths to mine.
I will say it again, “FCP is Workgin Perfectly……for me.” Keyword me.
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Craig Seeman
July 17, 2011 at 5:54 pm[Chris Jacek] “They are/were fiercely loyal because Apple always handled things in a particular way, which many of us believe has changed in recent years. You can count me as one of those people. “
They certainly have but I think the assumptions people are making may be wrong (maybe not, time will tell). Apple has always had long transitions and long EOL. They are still doing that with other products and services. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some management upheaval as a result of the botched release strategy (or lack of one).
[Chris Jacek] “They will not spend significant resources to make FCPX a high-end professional application (like FCP7, Premiere, and Avid). It is not close to that now, and it would cost quite a bit to get it there. There’s no real profit motive to do that. “
This is one of what I believe to be the mistaken assumptions. FCPX did not follow any of Apple’s patterns for release strategy for any of their consumer/prosumer products. There was no release press event. There was no Apple home page headlines. The only marketing attempt was the sneak peek shown to a high end audience. This is not a consumer marketing approach they have ever practiced. It’s a failed approach to market to pros.
Apple makes its money selling hardware and FCPX is probably geared to selling MacPros, MacBookPros and selling new lower end models as “starter” editing systems. They’ve done a botch job of marketing though.
Personally I think “someone” in Apple realized they had a problem on their hands, which is why this was a “quiet” release. All marketing became “quiet” after the sneak peek
Apple will have to fix things (both the program and the marketing) if they want FCPX to sell hardware. Anybody on Avid or Premiere can move to Windows and I’m sure Apple doesn’t want that.
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Brian Langeman
July 17, 2011 at 6:37 pm[Sean Thomas] “I will say it again, “FCP is Workgin Perfectly……for me.” Keyword me.”
Please re-read the title of your post.
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Sean Thomas
July 17, 2011 at 7:50 pmDid you think I ment it was “working perfectly” for you or everyone else?
“…….me” was CLEARLY added for clarification. I guess it didn’t work.
[Mike Chedwick] “Anyone who says “FCP X Working Perfectly” is disingenuous and shows they are not to be taken seriously.”
Your statement is preposterous. How can you make a statement about how FCP X is working for me and what I think about it?
What I’ve learned on this forum is that if you LIKE FCP X or have anything good or positive to say about it, there is a group of so called Elite Pros that will come in a shit on your parade. Becuase it doesn’t work for them, it most certainly can’t work for anyone else.
I don’t know what to call this mentality: ignorant, arrogant, pittyfull, blind, whatever – but it’s sad.
FCP X: Type A
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Chris Jacek
July 17, 2011 at 10:33 pm[Sean Thomas] “I don’t know what to call this mentality: ignorant, arrogant, pittyfull, blind, whatever – but it’s sad.”
I know what I’d call the mentality of that statement: arrogant and myopic. You’re basically doing what you accuse the “elite pros” of doing.
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Sean Thomas
July 18, 2011 at 12:09 am[Chris Jacek] “I know what I’d call the mentality of that statement: arrogant and myopic. You’re basically doing what you accuse the “elite pros” of doing.”
Yes, but I’m not the one on a FCP X forum whining, complaining, and calling anyone who likes the app and amature, idiot, troll, 12 year old etc.
I have only spoke about MY expierences with X. And as soon as I do, some ELITE PRO gouges with insults and disbelief that anyone would ever use X. That is myopic – “if I don’t like it and it doesn’t work for me, then no one else should like it and it can’t work for them.”
When I came to the FCP X forum, I expected to find people using the program, talking about how to use the program. Not a bunch of whining ELITE PROS dogging every good thing you say about Apple or X.
This is why a few of us have said (somewhat jokingly) “All the haters go somewhere else” so we can learn and talk about X.
FCP X: Type A
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