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  • FCP X Working Perfectly – Love It!

    Posted by Sean Thomas on July 16, 2011 at 4:23 am

    Last night I was about to download FCP X but before I did I thought I would visit the Cow to see what people think about it.

    After reading the FCP X forum I was amazed to see that nearly everyone hated the program, had absolutely nothing good to say about it, hated Apple, and most were heading to Adobe Premier. WOW! – not what I expected.

    I made a simple little post (must have been the most sinister thing ever writen on the Cow) about how surprised I was about all the DRAMA. That quickly turned into insults and other nasties…….Apple sucks, Steve Jobs sucks, I suck (I’m also an amature), FCP X is a joke/iMoviePro, and on and on.

    So tonight I download the program and jumped in – no tutorials or manual….yet.

    My first impression that it’s like going from a bicycle to a Ferari. The SPEED alone is worth changing to X.

    I have never used iMovie so I have no idea how much they are alike and don’t really care. I guess the reality was that while FCP7 sit there for years they were making major advancements in their editing technologies – just happened to be iMovie. Now those advancements are in a new program that will probably change everything.

    I know, it’s too different for most people, but honestly take a look at FCP 7. It looks like it did in V1. The same old stuff that’s been around for nearly 15 years in NLE’s.

    Thank you Apple for changing everything! Out with the old and in with something new. I am actually going to have FUN learning a COOL new program and not sitting down at the old FCP like I have for the last 8 years.

    Chris Harlan replied 14 years, 10 months ago 16 Members · 55 Replies
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  • Tangier Clarke

    July 16, 2011 at 5:09 am

    I am really liking the application too. I’ve now cut three projects with it (even with the bumps involved) and finding that FCP 7 feels old already. Though it is still my goto app for bigger projects due to my BlackMagic Multibridge Pro 2 and just it’s general features right now.

    FCP X hasn’t crashed on me any more than other apps I use for post. There are some features I miss of course, but amidst all of the various opinions about this app, I don’t look at it as an island. I’ve been very keen to Apple the past few years as they redo GUIs, streamline/cleanup code, prepare for streaming media in a big way, and merging the best of their desktop and mobile platforms. I see a very bright future.

    In several forums it’s been suggested that Apple has left the pro space; the assumption being that this rewrite of Final Cut Pro and it’s missing features is concrete evidence of Apple’s future plans. I think this type of thinking is premature and irresponsible, but I understand where these feelings come from. Looking at how Apple has been operating the past few years and seeing how things are being unified between their efforts and third party efforts, a rewrite of an application (granted missing features from older coded versions and missing those for whatever timing/shareholder/ technology advance-roadmap issues) is no indication of Apple leaving the pro space (as if we all agreed what “pro means”). They just really bungled this release (in our eyes).

    MC6 looks really great. Though I am not counting Apple out on this one. I’m not saying they’ll win this race and be the preferred app in relatively short time, but I also don’t expect any company to do things right all of the time and boy did they mess this launch up.

    Apple has an entire ecosystem of products from hardware to software that few companies can touch when it comes to harnessing technology, human interface, quality, and lest we not forget – leading many industries to follow them even if they didn’t do “it” first.

    I have now cut three projects with FCPX/Motion 5 and am absolutely loving this application and really look forward to it’s potential.

    Perhaps AVID is significantly smarter in the way MC has evolved as of late, but I think we’ll see the fruits of AV Foundation, OpenCL, FCP X (and it’s liking by developers), media creation and distribution in general, Thunderbolt, and DAMS. There’s a lot of things that it seems Apple has been refining and working on over the past few years we have yet to see the full benefit of, but from what I can tell, the future looks bright. Really bright.

    In the meantime, I’d be more than willing to take a look at MC6 and even Premier, but my FCS3 still works great (even though I’d already rather work in FCP X with my AF100 content).

    Happy cutting.

    Tangier

  • Tomislav Rupic

    July 16, 2011 at 7:21 am

    after they add XML I am totally switching to X, since I started color grading in Resolve I cant
    live without it. 🙂

  • Kim Krause

    July 16, 2011 at 7:32 am

    so nice to hear someone with a fresh and open take on the whole thing….as you say you are not a “pro” and you’ve probably noticed that most of the negative stuff comes form the old timers, but i love your open and honest feelings on the subject. i’ve been getting crapped on by everyone everytime i tell people to adapt or die. you comments sum up the experience beautifully and if anyone doesnt agree with you then just forge ahead…steal their clients and make your own way into this crazy world of post production. maybe then they will open their eyes and shut their mouths! best of luck to you…

  • Kim Krause

    July 16, 2011 at 7:38 am

    same here…..i’m actually hoping that with xml reintroduced i might even be able to still use color…export xml from fcpx …import into color? who knows its all rather exciting i think…..but davinci is my back up plan if i have to!

  • Chris Harlan

    July 16, 2011 at 10:10 am

    No, Kim. Most of the “negative stuff” comes from people who cannot use X because it will not function in a useful way for them. People aren’t going to use X to “steal my clients” because my job can’t be done with X. MAYBE, it will be useful in a couple of years. But, there’s nothing magic about the program. It ain’t a super weapon. You keep talking about it as if it popped out of Harry Potter’s backside, but really–in its current state–it is mostly a dumbed down program for people who find editing intimidating.

    You know the reason you keep getting–as you say–crapped on is not because you are the bringer of hard truth, but because you are so dismissive of other people. Most of the editors I work with are highly technical people, whose challenges at work change constantly. Four months ago, I was wondering if the new FCP would let me edit stereoscopic material by itself or with 3rd party plugins. I was hoping I would use it to edit Red, natively. I was hoping to have Motion improved and integrated into FCP itself, making it a competitor for Smoke. I was really expecting a better, stronger tool. I WANTED change. And every editor here who is complaining or upset wanted change too. They wanted more not less.

    You should take your own advice re: eyes and mouths.

  • Marcus Samuel-gaskin

    July 16, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “You should take your own advice re: eyes and mouths.”

    Wow. Grumpy and personal much? It just seems that as soon as anyone posts positive experiences , somebody in the this ‘forum’ (really, a forum for griping about an app, is allowed to continue?) makes it their personal duty to sh*t on someone’s parade. You’re like positivity seeking missile. You really didn’t have to open this thread you know..

  • Julian Bowman

    July 16, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    “I made a simple little post (must have been the most sinister thing ever writen on the Cow) about how surprised I was about all the DRAMA. That quickly turned into insults and other nasties…….Apple sucks, Steve Jobs sucks, I suck (I’m also an amature), FCP X is a joke/iMoviePro, and on and on.”

    The problem with revisionism on a forum, is your original ‘simple little post’ is only about 10 threads down, and still contains all the insults you levelled at people that can’t use the current ‘upgrade’ because it won’t do what is needed, and your flip flopping on your argument just to try and beat a post that that retorted to your original.

    original simple little post

    I’m now guessing, given the spelling too, you’re a recent NotW journo with a bit of time on your hands at present.

    Still, really glad you like X… it still doesn’t work for all those who are complaining (myself included) and nope, the fact FCP7 is still installed isn’t compensation for waiting 3 years for a 64 bit upgrade and getting given a turbo charged toy.

    Everyone who is moving to Premier is doing so because we’ve already waited years only to discover we have to wait years more on the off chance Apple will make X an app that can be used by all people who make a living from it, rather than a minority who make a self-contained living from it and hobbyists.

    Do you think I wanted to waste precious time learning a new system? Nope, I wanted FCP8 which would have been 64 bit and made the use of my £2500 block of hardware. And given I am going to have to learn a new bit of software, do you think it will be X which can’t do what I need it to do to keep earning a living? Nope again. And am I going to run a 32 bit software and lose hours and hours of time sitting on my thumbs on the off chance X evolves satisfactorily when Apple wouldn’t give you the time of day unless Jobs said they could so we actually have no idea whatsoever what will happen with it? Nope.

    Love X mate, just don’t hold yourself up as some sort of whinger-focussed piñata when you basically insulted people about something you have admitted you know nothing about because you are an ‘amature’ [sic].

  • Julian Bowman

    July 16, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    [double posted]

  • Eric Pautsch

    July 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Once X includes the features most of us need, it could be become a useful tool.

    But I think you missed the point of what Apple is doing. They’ve decided to change FCP’s paradigm while discontinuing support, of any kind, to their old system. All this in the middle of deadlines, pre-production meetings, ect. Make sense?

    This will and should be taught in business schools for years to come.

    I will never buy another Apple product as long as I live!! I even starting to hate the stupid on screen keyboard of my iPhone

  • Jamie Franklin

    July 16, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    [Marcus Samuel-Gaskin] ” Wow. Grumpy and personal much? It just seems that as soon as anyone posts positive experiences , somebody in the this ‘forum’ (really, a forum for griping about an app, is allowed to continue?) makes it their personal duty to sh*t on someone’s parade. You’re like positivity seeking missile. You really didn’t have to open this thread you know..”

    Please. Sean and Kim have been posting the nastiest stuff ever written on the Cow. Take your self righteous bs to their threads

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