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  • Andrew Kimery

    October 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Combined with the other 16 4Ks, you now have 22* 4Ks!!!”

    22K for $22K!

    Obviously all these questions (and more) will be answered when the tube ships. I wonder what shape the box will be? Time for a new thread!

  • Oliver Peters

    October 29, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “I wonder what shape the box will be? Time for a new thread!”

    Rectangular. It’s on the web site. And BTW, you only get a power cord, no keyboard or mouse included with it.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 30, 2013 at 12:18 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Rectangular.”

    Can’t innovate anymore, my ass!

    -Phil Schiller

  • Bill Davis

    October 30, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    I think the issue is that a working machine that can manage and display 16 streams of content in it’s window system for editing, is NOT the same a a machine that can OUTPUT multiple streams for something like IMAG or to feed separate HD monitors.

    They are two different tasks.

    I’ve read the Apple announcements from the beginning about the new MacPro is that it has the internal capability to output 3 streams of 4k “live footage” from the machine as it comes stock. And I think I recall Phil Schiller clarifying that to indicate two via Thunderbolt – and one via HDMI in the current stock config.

    Internal content handling for editing is a different thing. One would think It has to be done while the machine is running the editing interface and doing a tremendous amount of processing in order to be useful for any editor. In 16 screen multi-cam mode, all I need is to be able to view the content with enough resolution and image fidelity to make good choices. I don’t want lag, or so little resolution that the interface gets in my way – but again, I can’t really see the need =to stream 16 streams of uncompressed 4k just for my switching interface.

    Heck, every edit suite I learned in typically had a couple of large confidence monitors for Source and Program – and bunches of smaller monitors – often with more limited resolution – for multiple content feeds. This is precisely the same, IMO.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    We sorted it, Bill.

    It’s 22 4Ks.

    End of story!

    😀

  • Herb Sevush

    October 31, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    [Andy Branner] “There is nothing “honest” about it, which is my exact point. He’s not showing anything even CLOSE to what he claims. I have no respect for someone trying to blatantly jerk my and everyone else’s chain, sorry.”

    All right, enlightened us, what is false about his claim? As a non CC user it looked legitimate enough. I think you owe more of an explanation after calling someone a fraud.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 31, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    I know I said to come out swinging, perhaps a mistake on my party.

    Andy, let’s keep the shots above the belt.

    Cool?

  • Clint Wardlow

    October 31, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    [Andy Branner] “Exactly. You’re the perfect target.

    If you can’t see what’s going on on his screen, lack the knowledge to figure it out and can’t do the basic math, oh well…”

    I think you need to take a chill pill, dude. Being angry at the world and swinging wildly at all and sundry eats up a lot of energy.

  • Herb Sevush

    October 31, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    [Andy Branner] “If you can’t see what’s going on on his screen, lack the knowledge to figure it out and can’t do the basic math, oh well…”

    On his screen was a 16 way split screen. Which is the object under consideration. For certain periods of time all 16 angles were in motion, which is the object under consideration. I’m taking his word that all 16 angles were 4K, at 1/4 screen resolution – are you claiming that it’s not, and if so how can you tell? I do lack the knowledge, which is why I am asking you. As for my math skills, they are basic but I can count up to 16.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    October 31, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    [Andy Branner] “Santiago Martí] “you need to do 4K multicam, you can do it now,”
    Yeah, it’s just a bummer that it’s not anywhere near FULL-RES, which is the entire point of the thread. Again, reading comprehension.”

    No, that is not the point of this thread, since you’ve made it quite clear that FCPX uses Proxies, not 4K streams, and that as long as the multicam angles were “recognizable” they were good enough for the job.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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