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FCP-X plus new MacPro = 16 track Multicam of 4k footage? Really??.
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[Walter Soyka] “We know from here that this system can drive up to three 4K displays; but if “the breathtaking capability to run three streams of 4K video at once” is something different, it’s quite poorly written — which is why my alternative theory is a confused agency.
“Of course, it’s worth noting that most NLEs have easily run up to 7 streams of HD (uncompressed, ProRes or DNxHD) for several years now in real-time. That’s on fairly average machines. So running 3 streams of 4K ProRes doesn’t sound far-fetched – especially if that’s the top-of-the-line version of the Mac Pro.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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FWIW – This weekend at the SE Creative Summit, Scott Simmons demonstrated some of his music video timelines that includes grouped clips of up to 29 angles in HD. This was on Media Composer and he’s had as many as 79. He also shows similar grouping in Premiere Pro and FCP X. I’m not saying this in order to insert a “better than” comment related to the Mac Pro. Just a little reality check on what has been done to date in the rest of the world on standard machines.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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My highly scientific, back of the napkin algorithm says $10,001.78
With Appelcare, a tb2 dongle or two, keyboard and “mouse”.
It’s going to be over 10k.
Very happy to be wrong.
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[Walter Soyka] “We know from here that this system can drive up to three 4K displays; but if “the breathtaking capability to run three streams of 4K video at once” is something different, it’s quite poorly written — which is why my alternative theory is a confused agency.”
I still think this is 3 4K display streams. One of them will be the HDMI out, and then you’ll get two saturated TB2 ports.
Yes, it is poorly written. You will literally be able to pipe out Qty. 3, 4K (QuadHD) streams of video out of the tube to Qty. 3 4K (QuadHD) displays.
Instead of playback 3 (or 16) streams of video scaled down on one display.
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Compared with the old Mac Pro I’m going for a shade over $12k for equivalent top spec.
I reckon the base spec CPU and SSD with 32GB ram and upgraded GPU will be around $6500.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I still think this is 3 4K display streams. One of them will be the HDMI out, and then you’ll get two saturated TB2 ports.
Yes, it is poorly written. You will literally be able to pipe out Qty. 3, 4K (QuadHD) streams of video out of the tube to Qty. 3 4K (QuadHD) displays.
“But right after 3 streams of 4K it says “…(or many more streams of HD video)”. That doesn’t sound like it’s talking about feeding monitors. Or maybe it’s just poor written copy by marketing.
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[Andy Branner] “:-)))) … right. So you’re doing nearly 600MB/s on your internal bus. Mmmmh-hmmmm… gotcha. LOL
Yeah, that totally beats the Mac Pro’s internal 1+GB/s… you totally got me.
Oh, and next time maybe at least TRY to hide the fact that the clips are (at best) running at quarter-res… mind you, 4K ProRes is 66+MB/s…
:facepalm:
“it’s getting annoying – this has been an excellent thread.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Andrew Kimery] “That doesn’t sound like it’s talking about feeding monitors. Or maybe it’s just poor written copy by marketing.”
Why not?
Why not hook up 7 monitors (6 TB2, and an HDMI)?
I guess that since TB2 is technically a display pipe, as well as a data pipe, you could stream a 4K display, and then have multiple HD video signals coming in and out via Thunderbolt2 devices (T-Taps, ioXT, whatevers).
I don’t know, it starts to get weird, and that’s why it is probably written that way because it is weird.
We are no longer limited to a capture card, a GPU that has some DVI dongles.
Perhaps they really do mean a stream of video that you can do whatever you want with, hook it up to a display, or another video device.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Why not?”
Because the next sentence is “…Combine that with the power to drive up to three 4K displays…” If the 3 streams of 4K means sending content to 4K monitors then saying, in the very next line, that you can drive up to three 4K displays comes straight from the department of redundancy department. 😉
Here is the text in context from Apple’s page:
“Work pixel-for-pixel in 4K without slowing down, thanks to dual AMD FirePro workstation-class GPUs and the latest Xeon E5 processors in Mac Pro — a merger that delivers the breathtaking capability to run three streams of 4K video at once (or many more streams of HD video). Combine that with the power to drive up to three 4K displays, process effects in real time, and even edit 4K multicam clips, and you have a video editing powerhouse.”
Again, this could all just be poorly written copy but it’s not very clear, IMO (16 streams here, 4 streams there, etc.,).
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I see your point.
Perhaps you can send 3 4K streams of video AND drive 3 4K displays, for a total of 6 4Ks!
Combined with the other 16 4Ks, you now have 22* 4Ks!!!
(and many more streams of HD Video)
*i cant math
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