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  • FCP X in Shared Storage Environment – XSAN, etc

    Posted by Brandon Kuchta on July 1, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about the fact FCP X can’t access projects on any type of shared storage. No XSAN, no network volumes. This combined with a project model that doesn’t allow for organizing files by client and job means I can’t even think about adopting FCP X regardless of any other features they add. Looks like the only option is to go back to “sneakernet” with separate drives for each project that can’t be worked on at the same time. This seems like it’d be a big issue. Or are less people working in collaborative environments than I think?

    Andrew Richards replied 14 years, 10 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Marvin Holdman

    July 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Look around, there are several post on this. Especially from the educational market that uses this particular feature to distribute curriculum. It’s a HUGE problem.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Marvin Holdman

    July 1, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Here’s one to get you started;

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/8134

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Rich Rubasch

    July 1, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    We are very much shared here on 5 FCP systems. Shared files on every computer all gigabit ethernet….major issue here.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media Inc.
    Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
    Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
    https://www.tiltmedia.com

  • Devin Crane

    July 1, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    [Rich Rubasch] “We are very much shared here on 5 FCP systems. Shared files on every computer all gigabit ethernet….major issue here.”

    Final Cut Pro X?

    Also I don’t know much about Xsan but there is a simple code fix that allows FCPX to see Xsan volumes. If you search for it I’m sure you will find it.

  • Gary Huff

    July 1, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    [Devin Crane]I don’t know much about Xsan but there is a simple code fix that allows FCPX to see Xsan volumes. If you search for it I’m sure you will find it.

    If you don’t know much about it, and you don’t even know where to link to for the “simple code fix,” then how do we know it even actually exists?

  • Devin Crane

    July 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Sorry, too many posts to remember, just read how someone did it on the cow just a couple of days ago and was able to get FCPX to see Xsan with a simple command change. Regardless, there will be a fix for it to come.

  • Paul Dickin

    July 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Hi
    Ben Holmes“I hear on the COW FCPX projects won’t be read on an ethernet SAN?
    Not true – it took my SAN vendor about 5 minutes and a couple of lines of code to get this working”. OH – OK.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/7278

  • Andrew Richards

    July 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    [Brandon Kuchta] “I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about the fact FCP X can’t access projects on any type of shared storage. No XSAN, no network volumes. This combined with a project model that doesn’t allow for organizing files by client and job means I can’t even think about adopting FCP X regardless of any other features they add. Looks like the only option is to go back to “sneakernet” with separate drives for each project that can’t be worked on at the same time. This seems like it’d be a big issue. Or are less people working in collaborative environments than I think?”

    Project and Event folders aren’t enabled for shared storage (yet) for good reason- multiple users would collide and potentially overwrite each other’s data or not be able to write data at all. I do hope something is coming from Apple or a third party that will enable shared Events and Projects. That would be killer.

    HOWEVER

    Media can be stored on shared storage and linked to an Event for editing in place, and you’ll want to uncheck the box in FCPX’s Import preferences for “Copy files to Final Cut Events folder or it will try to copy it in. You’ll also want to turn of automatic transcoding. Ingest for this scenario pretty much needs to be handled outside FCPX, though. That does suck, but in a shared setting stand-alone ingest isn’t that unusual. Not ideal though.

    ALSO

    You can absolutely organize your projects. Make folders.

    Xsan is included in Lion now. Maybe something more is coming…

  • Brandon Kuchta

    July 1, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    You can create folders within FCP X, but that doesn’t help it integrate with the rest of our server, which is organized by Client->Campaign->Execution. Currently, our Final Cut projects are just one folder that lives in a job with other folders for After Effetcs, Nuke, Maya, Color, etc. I’m having trouble seeing how FCP X’s approach to organization fits into this (fairly common) workflow. From what I can tell, all projects have to live together in the “Final Cut Projects” directory at the root level of the drive.

  • Mark Raudonis

    July 2, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Clearly “X” and X-SAN are currently NOT talking to each other. You’ll have to wait and see if this is addressed in the next release… whenever that may be.

    Mark

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