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  • Chris Harlan

    February 17, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    EDIT: I’ve read further and I understand a bit more about what you are saying. I agree with Chris that what you define as conundrums, I just think of as editing. These are basically questions I would be asking about the material itself, and not about what I was using to make it happen. I agree that there are situations that X might be better suited for than other NLEs. For what I do, I don’t see it.

    [Brett Sherman] “Moving a clip with audio and video from one part of the timeline to another where there is an audio track already there.”

    Well, only if you don’t know what you are doing, or haven’t organized properly. If you mean you have to think about it briefly, well–yes. But I’d be thinking about which piece of audio belongs there anyway, right?

    [Brett Sherman] “Lengthening an video clip puts a gap in your music track because you have an edit in it. So do you trim the audio and video together or do you trim the video then cut the gap you’ve created out.

    I don’t understand this. In my world, I’m crafting the video and audio tracks to work very tightly together. Scoring. If I add a line, or a scream, or a thunderbolt, I will always be paying special attention to how it affects the score. I wouldn’t want the system auto-healing for me.

    [Brett Sherman] “Or worse, you try to shorten your video clip by trimming it, but you can’t because two audio clips that abut each other won’t let you.”

    This I don’t get at all. How would audio clips keep you from trimming video?

  • Chris Harlan

    February 17, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    [Andy Neil] “But I know you know that, Simon so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make by playing dumb. “

    Seriously? He was making a point, not playing dumb. You need to check your irony scanners; they may need a little oil.

  • Chris Conlee

    February 17, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    [Andy Neil] “I wish to hell that Avid could do an FCPX style replace edit because I find that I need that kind of edit often”

    Because I’m not familiar with FCPX’s method of doing this, how does it work? Honestly, I’d be surprised if Avid couldn’t do it.

    Chris

  • Andy Neil

    February 17, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    [Chris Conlee] “Because I’m not familiar with FCPX’s method of doing this, how does it work? Honestly, I’d be surprised if Avid couldn’t do it.”

    It’s a two function solution in Avid. The basic replace edit in FCPX will replace a clip in the project with the IN/OUT of the clip in the browser, changing the length of the timeline clip to match the length of the browser clip and if done in the primary storyline, it moves the rest of the timeline down to make room.

    In Avid, it’s equivalent to doing a replace edit and then a trim of the new clip to match a new length.

    Andy

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos

  • Simon Ubsdell

    February 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “So in the current replace from end or start, there’s a target timeline clip range – even if you only select an I or O point the range gets completed to the tail or head , and a source clip range. And the first or last frame of each clips range is the “anchor” when replacing. But it seems there’s some voodoo required if you want the playhead to be the anchor…”

    That does seem likely, for sure, but hey, what do we know?

    😉

    [Charlie Austin] “On a related note, Don’t know why I didn’t think of this, but I just realized that there’s a dedicated Motion feedback page as well, so I’m bombarding that with Keyer feedback. :-)”

    Actually I’ve just posted a few more things you can bug them about in relation to the keyer in my reply to Jeremy elsewhere on this thread 😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Chris Conlee

    February 17, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Gotcha. Yeah, that would be helpful on occasion. And you’re correct, Avid doesn’t have a similar function.

    Chris

  • Craig Shamwell

    February 18, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    Uhhhh….not true about clips above the primary storyline adding transitions.

  • Craig Shamwell

    February 18, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Ok, now I see what you are saying! On basic transitions it is possible though.

  • Craig Shamwell

    February 18, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Timothy you are being very disrespectful of this forum and those who want more info about your workflow so we can more accurately help you understand that maybe your concerns may be outdated.
    Unless you have a very specific agenda, which it seem you do with your statements, you need to go somewhere else and post.

  • Craig Shamwell

    February 18, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    What you are not understanding is that you “are” creating tracks!
    In addition to color coding specific elements, Green for Audio, Purple for Titles, the concept of connecting a clip makes it easier to move the primary Clip without losing synch and timing to any elements attached to that point in time on that clip. Do you want to move a clip and leave everything else in place….SIMPLE!!!!! Hold down the “Tilde” key and move it anywhere you want. All the other Attached clips will stay in place and a gap will fill the space where the clip came from. At that point you can add another clip right over top of the gap and the time of the entire project will not be changed. This is very intuitive in my opinion. Want a cleaner timeline? Using compound clips is nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. Simply select the clips you want and create it. All the associated clips will still maintain thier position relative to the main track. If you want to edit anything in that compound clip, sure you can open it the timeline editior, but an easier way is to simply “Break apart clip items” and edit, right in the primary editing window! And then simply “collapse clip items”. Most folks simply do not know all there is in FCPX and how much easier and faster it is. Along with opening up to thinking just a bit differently in how you edit. Timothy Auld is posting comments that make no sense at all. And if he had any clue of what “roles” mean in FCPX he would know how silly some of his comments sound.

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