FCP X and Premiere Pro CS

[Richard Herd]

[Andy Neil] “I can use whichever one I need for the project.”

What’s your personal decision metric for deciding which app to use for a particular project?

Thanks!

[Bret Williams]

I have actually highlighted a group of titles and put them in a secondary together just to make them more visual so I can grab them and turn them off or on. This is usually at the end of an edit though. When I’m making versions with or without titles. It would be a hindrance during the edit of course.

[Andy Neil]

[Richard Herd] “What’s your personal decision metric for deciding which app to use for a particular project?”

Good question. It usually goes like this:

Projects which are quick turnarounds, heavy titles, short-form, digital narrative, shows with gfx packages, shows where I’m responsible for color and sound finishing, self-contained, most file-based workflows, mixed media, most mulicam workflows I’m going to use FCPX for. This is the bulk of my “at home” work.

Projects which are tape based, previously cut on Avid or FCP7, specific multicam workflows, film, long-form, shows requiring outside color and sound, 3D, shows with lots of “scripts” (for scriptsync) I’ll typically use Avid

Projects which require gfx that I can only do on After Effects I’ll use Premiere for.

I’ll admit that I’m prejudiced against Premiere. I’m least familiar with it and many things about it annoy me, but I’m working through some of those issues if only to be proficient enough to fill out my resume. Basically, if I can do it in Premiere, I’m more likely to do it in Avid. I’ve got 14 years experience on Avid and despite what people have said about Premiere being like FCP 8, I just don’t find it that way.

The long and short of it is if there’s a mapped out production pipeline, it’ll usually be Avid. If someone dumps a camera card in my lap, it’ll probably be FCPX.

Andy

https://www.timesavertutorials.com

[Marcus Moore]

If you’re just editing your music, and you don’t want to tie those edits to specific visuals, I tend to put the musician a storyline vs a compound clip.

[Brett Sherman]

[Bret Williams] “And how would you transition from a clip on track 3 to a clip on track 2 in legacy? It functions exactly the same. Add a dissolve to the clip on “track” 3 and it fades to the clip below. In fact, in X, certain effects will actually pull the background (the clips below) into the effect. Something legacy can’t do. So I really don’t understand the comment.”

I understand you couldn’t do it in legacy either, so I’m not making a comparison. However, nothing was organized in Legacy. The idea of X is that it is organized so you can work in sections and move those sections around easily. With X I like to organize content. Interviews go in primary. B-Roll and Actualities go in the secondary. I find I have to move clips around to get a transition between them, often putting them in a secondary storyline, which then also makes it harder to reorganize.

Now I understand with a dissolve the clips don’t need to be in the same storyline. However with a two-sided effects such as a push they do. That’s the problem I’m talking about. It seems X should be smart enough to see okay you’re trying to add a push, the A side is the clip you apply it to. The B side is whatever is below the clip. It sounds like you’re saying some effects do what I’m suggesting. Is that new? Or are there only specific effects it works for? I haven’t seen it happen that way.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

minor rant: I would like to target and overwrite a connected clip. I can’t – new entrants outside the primary are indestructible entries – until you nominate and produce a secondary storyline.

it’s a form of lunacy. there is far too much unbreakable hierarchy, and way too much confused modality between connected, secondary and primary, given they are all identical V/A objects entering the timeline.

completely personally, the X timeline is pre-structured with a degree of meccano intention that I actually can’t stand. it’s close to nails on a blackboard.

also there are all these default lines connecting everything to the primary. has anyone noticed that? why in the sweet christ am I having to look at that.

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[Andy Neil]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I would like to target and overwrite a connected clip. I can’t – new entrants outside the primary are indestructible entries – until you nominate and produce a secondary storyline.”

Select connected clip. Go up to event browser. Choose new clip. Hit SHIFT+R to replace old connected clip with new one. The way FCPX does a standard replace edit is more like overwrite. It only works on a single clip, but it works fine. I almost never use overwrite as an option in X. Scratch that, I NEVER use overwrite as an option. I never find it necessary. Even if I want to overwrite a number of connected clips with a single long clip, the replace edit will time out to the length you choose in the browser, not the clip length in the timeline and it will connect above other connected clips down the line, making them unviewable. You can just lasso the other clips and delete them if you want to keep your sequence organized.

[Aindreas Gallagher] “also there are all these default lines connecting everything to the primary. has anyone noticed that? why in the sweet christ am I having to look at that.”

You don’t have to look at the connecting anchors. Go to the timeline display options (button in bottom right of project window). Uncheck the Show Connections box.

Andy

https://www.timesavertutorials.com

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Andy Neil] “the replace edit will time out to the length you choose in the browser”

What if you don’t want this behavior? In my experience I want the opposite result virtually all the time.

Simon Ubsdell
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Andy Neil]

[Simon Ubsdell] “What if you don’t want this behavior? In my experience I want the opposite result virtually all the time.”

I was addressing Aindreas’ desire to overwrite a connected clip. If you’re looking to do a replace edit where the length of the clip in the timeline determines the length of the replacing clip, then you use one of the other replace functions: Replace at Start (OPT+R), and Replace at End (mappable).

Andy

https://www.timesavertutorials.com

[Simon Ubsdell]

And if I wanted to do an actual replace edit as it is commonly know, that would be easy, right?

Simon Ubsdell
http://www.tokyo-uk.com