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  • FCP with Shake or Motion?

    Posted by Rich Tencza on June 20, 2005 at 4:52 pm

    Hi,
    I am an Avid user looking to become better versed in FCP. I really want to give FCP a hard test trial and see if our facility should migrate in that direction. I currently edit DS Nitris and Adrenaline and I am fairly well versed in After Effects.

    I was wondering what are the main differences between Motion and Shake…without the hype. Which integrates better with FCP? What do these do better or that AE can’t?

    If you have a client over the shoulder, which keeps the workflow….flowing?

    I was leaning toward Shake but don’t know much about Motion or its capabilities.

    Thanks a ton!!!

    Rich Tencza

    Rich Tencza replied 20 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Jeff Carpenter

    June 20, 2005 at 6:51 pm

    Motion and Shake are used for different things.

    Tell us what kind of things you’d be using this kind of program for and we can help figure out which one you need.

  • Rich Tencza

    June 20, 2005 at 8:32 pm

    Well, for instance…..heavier compositing abilities (and ease of use), tracking, animatable paint strokes and shapes, basic 3D environment(AE maybe for that one), tree/node effect editing….and good integration with FCP 5

  • Jeff Carpenter

    June 20, 2005 at 8:58 pm

    It sounds like you should be looking at Shake.

    Motion is more for 2-D graphics, titles, and other eye-catching graphics. Motion’s main point is that anything it does it can do a lot FASTER and EASIER than After Effects can. They never claim it to be a replacement for AE, though, because it can’t do everything AE does. What it can do, it does better, but it can’t do everything.

    For any kind of compositing, though, Shake is the place to be. You should probably look into taking a class somewhere first, though. I don’t know Shake at all, but from what I understand it has a much steeper learning curve than the other programs. It might be wise to learn a little bit about using it before you spend any money on it.

  • Sam Zimman

    June 21, 2005 at 4:18 am

    I’d start by picking up this book. It comes with a 30 day trial of Shake. I would also recommend a Wacom Tablet (I use a cheap-o-Graphire 3) because you need a 3 button mouse. A large screen also helps.

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321256093/qid=1119327139/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_ur_2/002-0332378-6267271?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

    If you are use to compositing with DS and AE then what you do is not any different. It’s just how you do it. You have to start thinking of effects working in nodes and trees instead of stacking orders. And there is no composition size so to speak. Shake does render like lightning and works very well with distrubutive rendering and proxies. This is why it’s so big with 2k and 4k film effects. Tracking, Keying, and Color Correction is a lot better than in AE. The program is more mathamatical than AE.

    I still use AE for most of my work because I’m more efficent setting up my comps than I am in Shake, so the faster renders never help me.

  • Rich Tencza

    June 21, 2005 at 4:09 pm

    Thanks for ALL of the input guys! It is much appreciated!

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