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  • FCP with AE 6.5: What is optimal workflow for me? HELP NEEDED!!

    Posted by Alexander Gao on December 24, 2005 at 5:25 am

    Hi,
    I’m a starting indie filmmaker and I have shot my entire movie in dv. now, i would like to give each scene the tint i have planned out in after effects, using a solid w/ overlay and a photo filter. What would be the best workflow to achieve a final product with such clips? Should I go to AE and tint, etc. first, and THEN go to fcp? Also, what codecs do you think I should use to achieve maximum results for my project (which includes motion graphics that I want to still look good), still under dvd size? (4.7 GB)(exporting from AE, and exporting from fcp). My final film willprobably be around 20 minutes total.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!

    NOTE: I used the animation codec to go from AE to FCP, and the 10-bit uncompressed codec to export to quicktime. Please tell me if these are unnecessary, and if any other codecs will produce the same results with less file size.

    Bryce Whiteside replied 20 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Alexander Gao

    December 24, 2005 at 5:34 am

    PPS: What codecs should I be using to go from AE to FCP with motion graphics, and then to final while still preserving quality but limiting file size?

  • Morten

    December 24, 2005 at 12:12 pm

    if you start of digitizing in FCP – I would simply export by reference to the original capture files. This is done by exporting the sequence as Quicktime (without recompress or make self contained).
    If you export to a different codec you will only be recompressing the footage.

    I would probably stick to color grading in FCP – but you can import the reference file into AE and alter the footage with a simple filter overlay. Even better use Syntetic Ducks exporter from FCP to import the sequence clip by clip in AE, giving you option for individual grading per clip…

    – No Parking Production –

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  • Bryce Whiteside

    December 24, 2005 at 8:24 pm

    Do you mean Automatic Duck at https://www.automaticduck.com ?

    Inquiring minds…
    Bryce Whiteside

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
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  • Bryce Whiteside

    December 24, 2005 at 8:53 pm

    Quite frankly if all you are doing is tinting and adding one photofilter filter in AE, that can be duplicated within Final Cut Pro.

    Digital Film Tools (link) is one plug-in maker for FCP, et al that I own but there are others perhaps a little more inexpensive.

    You can find alternative plug-in from this compiled list at Simon Kirby’s Lunchtime Cinema – Home

    Inquiring minds…
    Bryce Whiteside

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
    Final Cut Pro HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3
    Motion

  • Morten

    December 25, 2005 at 10:33 am

    Yeah – but I automatically went into a synthetic mood…

    – No Parking Production –

    Finalcut Studio, Dual G5, Kona 2, X-Raid

  • David Bogie

    December 25, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    [thewanggao] “I have shot my entire movie in dv. now, i would like to give each scene the tint i have planned out in after effects, using a solid w/ overlay and a photo filter.

    There is no need to go to AE for this simple effect. Stay in FCP, just learn how to do it.

    What would be the best workflow to achieve a final product with such clips? Should I go to AE and tint, etc. first, and THEN go to fcp?

    Depends on your editing style. Me, I’d get the thing completely edited before attempting to add overlay effects. But you might want to experiment with a few scenes before committing to the effect.

    Also, what codecs do you think I should use to achieve maximum results for my project (which includes motion graphics that I want to still look good), still under dvd size? (4.7 GB)(exporting from AE, and exporting from fcp). My final film willprobably be around 20 minutes total. “

    If it’s going to DVD, MPEG2 will mess everything up so just stick with conventional DV. If you shot in DV, there is nothing to be gained by attempting to use a higher bit rate codec.

    Setting and getting the highest possible quality in the encode to MPEG2 are covered in several book-length threads. It ain’t easy. If the quality of the release DVD is very important to you, hire an encoding expert.

    bogiesan

  • Chris Poisson

    December 25, 2005 at 5:50 pm

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Alexander Gao

    December 27, 2005 at 6:32 am

    can dv codec be put onto a dvd for playback?

  • Bryce Whiteside

    December 27, 2005 at 5:10 pm

    It can be put on a data DVD (like a data CD as oppose to an audio CD). My experience is 210 to 220 MB per minute.

    A data rate and storage capacity calculator can be found here aja.com – AJA_Data_Rate_Calculator_102b11.zip

    HTH,
    Bryce Whiteside

    Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…

    PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
    Final Cut Pro HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3
    Motion

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