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  • FCP Vs Canopus: help

    Posted by Willy Pimentel on September 28, 2006 at 3:23 pm

    I am a FCP user in a big broadcast stations where our old systems are getting replaced. Somehow one big shot executive suggested that we would be better-off with Canopus systems as oppossed to FCP Editing systems. I need ammo to go back and argue against Canopus weakness from an editors perpective in a Creative services department. Networked Pipeline:? Multicam? Media Management? Color Correction? I need to be able to explain what Conopus sytems don’t do that I absolutely need. Thanks in advance..

    Willy Pimentel replied 19 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Peter Wiggins

    September 28, 2006 at 4:03 pm

    Not what you want to hear, but there is one big advantage of Canopus/Edius over FCP and that’s its agile/agnostic timeline.
    It cannot be beaten for playing back multiple codecs on one timeline. Other than that, FCP wins 🙂

    Peter.

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  • Jerry Hofmann

    September 28, 2006 at 4:10 pm

    With a Kona 3, you could turn any source from tape into whatever you decide to use for a sequence setting, so Peter’s right, however there’s a pretty easy work around… as long as the frame rate is the same.. Does the canopus work with 24pa in the same sequence as 25 or 29.97 etc..? I’ll bet it doesn’t… but don’t know for sure. THAT WOULD BE a pretty neat trick!

    Jerry

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  • Peter Wiggins

    September 28, 2006 at 4:22 pm

    Jerry,

    As Grass Valley pay some of my bills I feel the obligation to cut & paste:-

    “Featuring unrivaled realtime video transcoding technology, EDIUS Pro performs conversion between different HD and SD resolutions, aspect ratios and frame rates

  • Mike Smith

    September 28, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    Why not dig about on the grass valley website … https://www.canopuscorp.com/products/EDIUSBroadcast/index.php

  • Andy Mees

    September 28, 2006 at 5:49 pm

    Hi Willy

    You know its really difficult to quantify these things. I’m making the difficult transition to canopus edius as my primary edit tol myself. Here’s the thing, all the edit functions are right there, but its the implementaion of them that constantly surprises … because no one in their right mind would choose for a toolset that acts like the Canopus Edius tools do.
    My guess is Edius was not designed by an editor (in fact they only just hired one prior to the last upgrade to version 4! ) It was more likely designed by a software programmer who was asked to create an nle that could be bundled with the hardware that the company is rightfully famous for. Its not bad … its just not good.

    Sure, the mixed codec/system/frame rate support is awe inspiring to us poor fcp users with our debilitated timelines … its certainly trying really really hard and the latest version is a worthwhile improvement. With T/GVG’s support it will certainly improve (and i’m looking forward to version 5!) but for now its still just not quite right.

    I know you’re looking for a list to fend off your boss, but unfortunately on paper the functionality does exist. however, if it helps …

    It

  • Willy Pimentel

    September 28, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    DV output is not a concern since this systems will be tight up to a router or probably connected to a (bitcentral Shared storage)……… Thanks Petter

    Also, I am planning to quote a full blown fcp sys with kona 3? and x-raids…
    On the post by andy, I see how this limitations can be a problem. Thats exactly what i am looking for. I am taking notes of these limitations and thank u for your continueing support….

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