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  • FCP to record studio segments

    Posted by Mark Ritter on May 23, 2009 at 2:24 am

    Our small in house coorparate production facility recently upgrade to HD. One of the last pieces the integrater installed was a two channel HD recorder server syttem. Each channel has an Xserve with AJA Kona 3 for I/O. We use the FCP system in the control room to remotel run the to Xserves which use Virtual VTR (https://www.virtualvtr.com/vtrpro.html) to record to the Xservers.

    After many attempts buy the company that sold our intergrator the sytemem, it does not work right. Basically can’t record clips longer than 3-4 minutes using QT Pro Res codec.

    My questions are, does anyone here have any positive experience with Virtual VTR?

    Since Virtual VTR is not working for us, would it be possible to use FCP instead of Virtual VTR to record to the Xserves?

    Are there any other pieces of software that would work with this hardware configuration?

    We don’t need a lot of capacity, 10 or so hours. We want something to record studio segments to edit on FCP. If clips need to be edited on Avid, we thought we could record using DVCProHD codec.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
    mark

    Andre D’elena replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Andre D’elena

    May 23, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    There’s a piece of software called AJA VTR Xchange. We used it with very limited success on an 8Core Kona3 system, but it might be worth a try. You could log in to the Xserve and trigger it remotely, then edit with that footage off the Xserve or move it over to your edit computer’s media drives first. I’m not sure what you’re Xserve config is but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work?

    It works with your existing setup and can record in all the Kona codecs.

    Best Regards,
    Andre

  • Gary Adcock

    May 23, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    [andre delena] “There’s a piece of software called AJA VTR Xchange. We used it with very limited success on an 8Core Kona3 system, but it might be worth a try”

    Andre.

    why do you say limited success- VTRX is intended to used for capture and playback of all the files that your Kona Card or Io can handle. It even allows for capture of HSDL from film scanners, in addition to any capture codec, VTRX also can handle capture of video into still seq’s Jp2K, DPX or TGA files and the ability to GRAB frames from a video stream, a function that is widely popular with TV stations.

    It is not in any way shape for form an editing tool, it is just for capture and playback.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
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  • Andre D’elena

    May 23, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    I realize it is not an editing tool. I say “limited success” because it was not the solution we went with ultimately. You are correct Gary, I probably shouldn’t have used those words. At any rate, it seems like THE tool for this particular workflow.

  • Peter Wiggins

    May 25, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    I think you were sold virtual VTR instead of Picture Ready. Have a chat with Mark Gilbert at The Gallery – he will tell you if you machines are up to doing the ProRes recording too.

    Peter

  • Mark Ritter

    May 26, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Thanks for the responses. Will check on the AJA software tomorrow.Will also check in to Picture Ready.

    Thanks
    mark

  • Mark Ritter

    May 26, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Peter, thanks for the tip. Our VTR exchange and Xserves were puchased through a reseller that handles Virtual VTR so I hope they knew what they were doing.

    I installed AJA VTR Xcahnge on both boxes this morning and it works well, not nearly as clunky/klugy as Virtual VTR. During our day of training we were told to restart the Virtual VTR app after each setting change. AJA VTR exchange is not as touchy.

    Only questions I have for AJA is that we can only get audio in as embedded even though our Kona 3 has AES connected. Timecode is being caputred and displayed during capture which is nice.

    Thanks again to all for the info!

    mark

  • Mark Ritter

    July 18, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Have an additional question regarding AJA VTR Exchange. We have been using VTR exchange to record studio segments and edit those clips on FCP. Question is, is there a codec that will work and be editable on a PC based Avid?

    I’ve tried the DVCPro HD codec. On the Avid audio is great but video is a solid white frame.

    Thanks for any tips,
    mark

  • Andre D’elena

    July 18, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    I would try IMX maybe? I’m only guessing. We used the VTR Xchange in conjunction with FCP not Avid. Our Avids don’t have the DVCPro codec installed, come to think of it, none of our Windows machines do? You’re trapped in Quicktime world though, so that’s a problem.

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