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  • FCP to PPro – teething Problems 1

    Posted by Julian Bowman on July 15, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Hi,

    i’ll be posting a fair few of these no doubt.

    1) In FCP Viewer we have tabs along the top with the following:

    Video – Audio – Filter – Colour Correction – Motion

    Can I set these up in my PPro viewer? For example I wanted to reduce the size of a clip to 45% and can’t see how. Also I choose an in point from audio and the only way I can see to get to the audio waveform is to click the little horizontal lines in the top left and choose audio waveform from the drop down menu (2 clicks not one and a tad irksome).

    2) I’m sure this is me but when I put a clip on the timeline the video went to V1 and the Audio to A4 A5. I can move the video clip up and down the tracks but the audio remains in 4/5. When I add another clip I can put the video in V2 but the audio wants to go in A4/5. Any ideas what I’m doing wrong here?

    Ta

    ps: I’m sure i’ll get there with PPro in the end but after 8 years doing nicely on FCP and only wanting a 64 bit version to use the power of my Mac, having to learn a new bit of software because Apple have to reinvent the bloody wheel is bloody frustrating I can tell you.

    Alex Udell replied 14 years, 9 months ago 7 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Tom Daigon

    July 15, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    As an experienced editor, you owe it to yourself to avoid a hit and miss approach to learning PrP. I am in the same situation (switching) and I found this book to be exactly what I needed. It reduces the frustration and reveals the hidden power of PrP. The accompanying DVD has 5.5 hours of instruction. Richard Harrington targeted this book for folks like you and me. Its a fine tool for accelerated learning.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • Tim Kolb

    July 15, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Richard does a nice job with his book.

    There are a variety of training resources from a variety of trainers.

    Adobe doesn’t list all of them on their website.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Cody Walters

    July 15, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Tom,

    Do you have a link to the book/DVD you were describing? I too am making the transition to Premier.

    Cody Walters
    JW Studio LLC
    Houston Video Production
    Houston Wedding Videographer

    Final Cut Studio 3
    Adobe CS5 Master Suite
    Panasonic HVX-200
    Canon 7D

  • Cody Walters

    July 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    I think this is the book you were referring to. Is that correct?

    https://www.peachpit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0321773012

    Cody Walters
    JW Studio LLC
    Houston Video Production
    Houston Wedding Videographer

    Final Cut Studio 3
    Adobe CS5 Master Suite
    Panasonic HVX-200
    Canon 7D

  • Alex Udell

    July 15, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    1) Effects controls: These parameters can be found in the effects controls panel. By default it’s a tab docked in the source viewer panel, so in that way it’s similar to FCP. Rather than breaking it out into tabs, the main panel is broken into fixed fx (things that ever clip has) an standard effects (filters you apply).

    2) Audio: you’ll notice that PPro has more options when it comes to dealing with audio righton the timeline. Tracks can be stereo, mono, or you can even set up for 5.1. so the reason why you audio is dropping down to lower tracks is that you source audio mapping (stereo vs. mono) is different from the default setup for the first couple tracks in your sequecne, so PPro just adds the type you need or drops in first active available tracks. That’s why you can’tmove them up. look at the edge of the audio track you’ll see what look like a bow tie for a stereo track (2 speakers) or half bow tie for mono tracks. There are options in the prefs for dealing with how you want audio dealt with. So stereo sources can be used as split track mono, for example, BUT you have to set that up before you use a source in any sequence in your project. Also wave forms can be viewed on the timeline, by just using the turn down arrow in the audio track.

    hope that helps…

    Alex

  • Julian Bowman

    July 15, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Cheers Alex,

    found ther effects panel which had what i was looking for. Will google how to put keyframes in.

    Bit confused by the audio. I’m used to dropping in a clip V1 A1/A2 and then dropping another clip V2 A3/A4 and it’s all fine and dandy. This doesn’t make sense to me and I can’t see how to add new audio tracks. Still, i’ll get there.

  • Julian Bowman

    July 15, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Found a tutorial on keyframes. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction with the effects panel.

  • Tom Daigon

    July 15, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Sorry to waste your time with the book pitch Julian. Had we known you were “on a trial” we would have never suggested such a great way to learn about PrP. Please forgive us 😛

    Yes, Cody that’s the book. Im on chapter 5 and PrP is beginning to feel like an old friend after 4 years of FCP every day. Its nice not be frustrated in the learning process.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • Alex Udell

    July 15, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Julian…

    right…what you are used to is FCP treating every track as mono

    Ppro can do that, but it’s default behavior is to include stereo tracks in the sequence as well. (all this can be customized)

    If you can get to looking at the waveform in the track you will lilkely notice that you will actually see both left and right waveforms within one track (noting that it’s a stereo track)

    Since you can’t place a stereo source to a mono track, or vice versa, premiere is using first available track of matching type…

    Right clicking on the track label area should give you the ability to add additional tracks of both audio and video. read that dialog carefully, can be a little tricky.

    Alex

  • Pete Peterson

    July 15, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Julian,
    I’ve recently went down the same road you are…downloading the trila and going thru my own “it doesn’t do this like I’m used to” comparing it to FCP 7. I was also surprised that when you posted two different questions it took a while for you to get an answer. That’s very unusual. One thing in particular has stood out when I first read this forum (and the Adobe one) was the almost immediate response other posters get when they ask a question. That’s why I was so surprised. Having actual Adobe employees on the forum really helps.

    Having said this, there are a wealth of tutorials, all free, that I finally decided to watch and then make my decision to purchase it. The Creative Cow series, Adobes own videos, and some on Youtube made me decide to get the whole suite. After having to stumble a little more and probably still will do, change the keyboard shortcuts to my own preferences (which is kinda neat), as I use PP I’m getting more and more comfortable with it.

    After all, it took me years and many generations of FCP to get totally used to it.

    Hope this helps.

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