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  • FCP seems solution to HDV capture for Avid – or am I missing something?

    Posted by Ben Edwards on August 16, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Hi,

    Ive been going round and round in circles on this one. I have a Z1 and a bunch of footage with no time code breaks but the camera was turned of and no quite a few times. When I capture when camera is power cycles the capture stops. This means a 1 hour unattended digitising session turns into a 2 hour attended one;(.

    I am using MC 5.5 Trial, the software only version, Avid is expensive enough so I am going to go for that.

    After a lot of discussion on Avid forums (I have checked all the camera/MC settings) it seems the best solution is to use FCP to capture. This creates new clips for each scene and I think Avid can access the files and timecodes with AMA. Not sure if recapture/consolidate will work, anyone know.

    Anyway this seems a workable solution, all be it a little odd. Have I missed something (i.e. is there a utility like HDVSplit for Mac that I can use?

    Regards,
    Ben

    Mac Pro Quad 3GHz, 6GB Memory, MC 5.5.2 Software Only Version


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Filmmaker
    https://www.funkytwig.com

    Ronn Kilby replied 14 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Michael Phillips

    August 16, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Since there is no timecode on the tape, have you tried turning off the timecode track in the capture window and just capturing on the fly? For long captures, make sure your setting is set for anticipated length of capture (30 mins, 60 mins, etc).

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Ben Edwards

    August 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I do have timecodes, I have on timecode breaks. Ideally I would like to keep them but yes, turning off TC should help. Ben


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Filmmaker
    https://www.funkytwig.com

  • Andrew Mckee

    August 16, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    I have captured HDV footage from Z1s and Z5s countless times into Avid without problems. If there are no timecode breaks, it should just keep capturing. If there are timecode breaks then you can just turn the “capture across timecode breaks” option in the capture settings. I’m not sure why you are running into problems. Mostly when I have seen students run into problems is when they set the raster to 1920×1080 instead of 1440×1080 or have missed something in the setup stage (which is much more involved than FCPs Easy Setup). Avid also has the option to detect start and stops on HDV and DV footage and can create subclips or add markers. The setting is in the Capture setting, under DV&HDV and is called Scene Extraction.

    Andrew McKee
    Editor/Colourist
    Avid Certified Instructor – MC5.5
    Apple Certified Trainer – FCP7
    Pixelwizard.net

  • Ben Edwards

    August 16, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Andrew,

    Not sure what the problem is but it seems to stop capturing when the camera is turned off/on. I think I have done the setup properly, certainly am using 1440.I know about the scene split stuff and have that set up.

    I just captured in FCP and did a AMA link. Worked great and the timecodes seem to of come over;). Tried capturing with TC off but made no difference.

    Can you please point me somewhere that describes the setup stage in full.

    Thanks for taking the time to help,
    Ben


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Filmmaker
    https://www.funkytwig.com

  • Andrew Mckee

    August 16, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    It’s not something that is generally written down anywhere (except the official Avid 101 course book) because its so camera/footage specific. But heres a quick guide.

    1) Create projet that matches timebase, res and raster of footage.
    2) Connect camera/deck (either into the computer or the mojo/adrenaline)
    3) Deck configuration (add port (OHCI for direct computer link), then add deck – your model (don’t autoconfigure use HVR-Z1))
    4) Media Creation Settings
    5) Audio Project Settings
    6) Capture Settings
    7) Open Capture window
    8) Capture

    Andrew McKee
    Editor/Colourist
    Avid Certified Instructor – MC5.5
    Apple Certified Trainer – FCP7
    Pixelwizard.net

  • Peter Groom

    August 17, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Just to add in guys.
    I too have found FCP AND AVID to be “troublesome” when it comes to capturing HDV generally. HDV is regarded as a bit of a donkey in this respect anyway.
    Ive had periods where it will cap fine and then times where it just keeps dropping out, for no adjustable reason often.
    What DID make a 100% improvement was using a proper HDV deck rather than a camera. Camera transports just arent up to it IMHO. Then previously troublesome tapes were fine.
    HDV split does seem a LOT more tolerant to HDV tapes inadequacies AND the files it produces fast import into AVID.
    RESULT
    Peter

    Post Production Dubbing Mixer

  • Ronn Kilby

    August 21, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    I shoot mostly now with an EX-1, but still use a Z1U as B camera sometimes. I rarely try to capture from the tape anymore, but rather set the EX1 to “SQ” mode, connect it via firewire to my Sony HDV deck, then record the footage to an SxS card and import (or use AMA) as I would with any other tapeless footage. Just another avenue you might consider. Works for me. If I do capture straight from tape, I use the GD-HD700 and the Z1U template in the capture tool.

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