FCP Removing Handy Cam look with out De-interlace

[Jerry Hofmann]

Quit shooting interlaced video… 24p or 30p will give you the look you’re after. When you deinterlace interlaced video you are throwing away about 1/2 the resolution. It’s something you should do if the end result is to be a web stream, but if it’s going to tape or DVD to be played on a TV set, you’ll lower that resolution if you do it.

So to get to where you want to go, you need to replace the camera if it doesn’t shoot a progressive format.

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[Joseph Ryan]

Thank Jerry for your reply

I had a quick scan on the internet to see if my camera shoots progressive format. I have a Canon XL2, on one site is said it did but I have a PAL version of the XL2 and on it is only an option of 25p or 50i. I gather there must have been an updated version there some where? I also have a sony HVR-A1P but no idea what that shoots.

So if I can’t find it in the manual that there is a 24p or a 30p shooting option. It means I have to save up again for a new camera and will have to put up with it for now?

I gather there are not other solutions to this?

So thanks for you help again.

Joseph

[Joseph Ryan]

Hi Jerry

Sorry to annoy you again but after digging my manual out my Canon XL2 has a option of 25p which it says is progressive, but it then says:

25p Mode
Records in 25 fps progressive mode and outputs signals converted into 50 fps interlace.

Would you or anyone know if this meant that I am still going to have interlaced footage. To me how it is written seem to suggest that it will record onto the tape in interlaced. If that is true if I was saving to a hard drive instead of tape would this solve that problem.

Hope that makes sense

Regards
Joseph

[Marc Brak]

No, it does record progressive. It may output a 50 fps interlaced signal, but since the two interlaced frames per second are created from one ‘whole’ (progressive) frame, the fields (the lines of which an interlaced picture consists) add up to one progressive frame 🙂

Does that make sense? 😉

Screw it, let’s do it!

[Rafael Amador]

But in which country are you Joseph?
You have a camera that shots i50 and p25, so is PAL.
But you want to shot p30 or p24 that are NTSC time bases. You need another camera.
However any “p” (p24,p25,p30..) will give you the progressive look that you my be looking for.
Rafael

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[David Roth weiss]

Joseph,

Color correction is just as important to your mission as dealing with the interlace. I’m CCing a feature at this very moment shot on about twenty different Handy Cams, and I assure you, it doesn’t have the”Handy Cam look.”

To begin with, I’ll bet that your black levels aren’t properly set. Do you know what they should be? Have you checked them?

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[Joseph Ryan]

Hi Rafael

I am in Australia, so yes that why it is Pal, thanks for letting me know 25p will be the same as 30p or 24p. I mainly shot surf footage, freewayproject.com and that is why the interlace problem has been such an issue, with all the movement I fill.

Thanks again
Joseph

[Joseph Ryan]

Hi Marc

I think I get what you mean (as I had a quick read on interlace). Because interlace has its image information over 2 frames (odd and evens) when I was de-interlacing I was taking away half the information there or losing the quality. With progresses as each frame rate is whole.

Thanks for your reply, it is greatly appreciated.

Regards
Joseph

[Joseph Ryan]

Hi David

Thanks for your reply, as I mention earlier in the thread I have two camera’s and one I do not think has a progressive setting. This camera is used for water footage as I mainly shoot surfing ( freewayproject.com ) so if there is anything I can do to get both cameras footage looking like I need that would be really helpful.

I have adjusted my black settings but that was just a guess as I was trying to remove that handy cam look, but no, I have no idea if what I did was even close to correct. I normally have been making my darks a little darker, and giving a little bit more colour saturation. But this is just guessing. If you have any information about Colour Correction that could help me out, or somewhere that I could read up on it, it would be greatly appreciated.

So the answer to your questions
“I’ll bet that your black levels aren’t properly set.” they are probably not set correctly
“Do you know what they should be?” no idea, I just guess
“Have you checked them?” yes I have checked them, but that doesn’t mean I knowing what I am doing.

And again with the colour correction issue it is like I am walking through a jungle at night and I keep smacking my head into trees.

Again thanks for your reply and help

Regards
Joseph

[Sean Oneil]

[Joseph Ryan] “Because interlace has its image information over 2 frames (odd and evens) when I was de-interlacing I was taking away half the information there or losing the quality. With progresses as each frame rate is whole.”

That is correct.

Sean