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  • FCP on new Macbook versus waiting for towers…

    Posted by Cm Creative media on April 25, 2006 at 12:34 pm

    Okay,

    I’m drooling over the new intel Macs but I am trying to hold on untill the towers are launched to capitalize on this revolution. But does anyone want to wiegh in on how FCP performs on the macbooks versus using a tower (or waiting for a tower?). This is a pickup of a earlier thread that I will include at the bottom of this message.

    Thanks for everyone’s input

    Craig Moore BFA, BA

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    CM Creative Media
    Video Production

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    Name: CM Creative Media
    Date: Apr 24, 2006 at 2:46:44 pm
    Subject: Re: 17″ MacBook Pro released today

    Another major tease..but a good one. I’m trying to hold out for the towers but this is so very appealing. Has anyone heard much about how FCP universal operates on these? I’m doing mainly corporate range work and I am debating tower versus portable. Anyone want to weigh in? I am a “closed loop” production (produce, shoot, edit and finsh in house) and I have lots of office space. I’m in the 2nd year of business so I’m open to future growth. My client focus is corporate and comercial broadcast, and I’m currently using FCP 4.5 on a G4 533.

    Thanks for any advice

    Craig Moore

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    CM Creative Media
    Video Production


    Name: Nick B
    Date: Apr 24, 2006 at 3:01:17 pm
    Subject: Re: 17″ MacBook Pro released today

    Peter Wiggins did a test of his 15inch intel mac and compared it to his G5 dual 2gig and the laptop came out just as fast overall.


    Name: Ben Holmes
    Date: Apr 25, 2006 at 5:55:07 am
    Subject: Re: 17″ MacBook Pro released today

    [CM Creative Media] ” I’m currently using FCP 4.5 on a G4 533″

    Wow – didn’t know that this met the minimum specs. You will find that FCP 5.1 works great on any Intel Mac – I have it running on a Duo Core Mini. If you are only working on DV, why not get a MacBookPro for the road, and an Imac for the office – they will both scream along compared to what you are using. One word of warning – not all plug-ins (AE particularly) work with Intel Macs yet.

    Enjoy – you have a world of real-time, speedy production ahead of you!

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
    EVS and FCP specialists
    Current Mac systems All Dual 2.7Ghz with Kona 2 and Digital Voodoo cards, 6Gb Ram, Sapphire, SCSI320 Medea and Huge Arrays.

    FCP projects include Sky TV coverage of the Ryder Cup and US Open Golf – Live OB specialists. Edit/slomo vehicle.
    http://www.editec.co.uk

    Cm Creative media replied 20 years ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Paul Nevison

    April 25, 2006 at 1:07 pm

    the towers are always going to be more beefy than a laptop – dual processors, better graphics cards, I/O etc…. but the macbook pro is here today and the towers are somewhere off into the distance. Personally I’m waiting for the intel towers and then for the dust to settle before making the switch, but that’s because my current machines are plenty fast enough for the timebeing (G5 2.0g)….the museum piece you are currently working on – would make me consider upgrading to something 🙂

    even a low spec imac would be faster than your current machine….a faster machine is likely to make you more productive meaning you could cover the purchase with a couple of jobs.

    an interim purchase of a G4 laptop, low end G5 tower could be a good interim measure – you will definetly notice the speed boost…and then jump on the G5 intel machines when they arrive.

    G5 DP 2.0
    4.0G RAM
    OS 10.4.6
    QT 7.0.4
    FCP 5.0.4
    BMD Decklink Extreme 5.5.1
    PAL Land

  • Cm Creative media

    April 25, 2006 at 1:18 pm

    Yes,

    that’s my dilemma. Great point. Work faster now (and get it paid for) or work faster “sometime” in the future and work slower (and less income) now. I’m going to pop over to a local mac retailer (no store here, Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada) on Thurs to see how uch I’m missing. They’ve a 15 in macbook with FCP runnig on it. I may leave crying but I’ll get a real perspective on what I’m missing.

    It may be a museum piece but you’d be surprized what I’ve cut and output with it :). She’s a sweet ole girl.

    Thanks

    Craig Moore BFA, BA
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    CM Creative Media
    Video Production

  • George Loch

    April 25, 2006 at 1:28 pm

    My question is do you need portability? The MBP is indeed a more powerufl laptop but it comes with portable compromises. If you don’t need portability, I would be inclined to pick up a refurb Quad myself. That would provide great performance for another 10 years like your G4 😉

    -gl < purchasing a MBP myself

  • Cm Creative media

    April 25, 2006 at 1:39 pm

    Good points.

    But now that everything is going intel i want to go with it as I’m getting in with new gear on the ground floor and everything else from here on in will be built for it.

    Portability is not “necessary” today but I’m wondering what uses/benefits FCP “on-the-road” have over a tower. And damm, I’m itiching to go intel. Someone else mentioned MCP and a Imac to get the best of both worlds. One of my pitches for my company is speed and flexibility of production so I’m considering portability to go along with that philiosophy. I’m kinda fence sitting. I really want to wait for the tower but with a protential release date of August and at my door date maybe 6 weeks later I’m trying to justify the wait. Also I am trying to see those who use FCP on MCP if they are satisifed with thier workflow.

    Thanks for helping the fence sitters 🙂

    Craig Moore BFA, BA
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    CM Creative Media
    Video Production

  • George Loch

    April 25, 2006 at 1:49 pm

    Personally, I think the MBP has more potential for FCP than the iMac. The main problem I see with the iMac is the lack of storage expansion. It would be fine for DV but that’s about it. In theory, the MBP will allow for eSATA raids and you could use the lone fw port for an AJA iO. Now if you go with the 17″ w/ the FW800 port thne you get even more expansion options.

    IF you really are only DV and plan to stay there for awhile then you would be just fine with an iMac I think. If you upgrade the internal HD to a 500gig then you will have a fair amount of space even without external storage. Seagate has even been tagged as readying a 750gig sata drive.

    -gl

  • Cm Creative media

    April 25, 2006 at 2:14 pm

    Good points. fast sata raid are good to know for simple cost savings. I think the tower benefit is how I’m leaning now. I think that it will be better served to waiting unitll my client demand requires portability and then buy a MCP but they will always want speed and output options so a tower with expansion is better serving my needs…it’s just hard to wait :).

    I think that as I can get around my workflow speed for now (i don’t know anything better/faster so I’m in a type of g4 bliss) so i think I will bank my dollars and wait for the towers. DV is my game today but I can see HDV and more broadcast work in the near future so I want to be open to that option.

    Thanks for your help,

    Craig Moore BFA, BA
    ———–
    CM Creative Media
    Video Production

  • George Loch

    April 25, 2006 at 2:24 pm

    Happy to help. Honestly though, you would see a large productivity boost if you simply went to a dual G5. I would be inclined to pickup a dual 2.0 now and then when the dust settles on the Intel desktops add a second machine and use the G5 as a rendering/logging station.

    Just an idea…hate to see small animals or anyone using a 500mhz computer to edit on suffer needlessly 😛

    -gl

  • Ron James

    April 25, 2006 at 4:15 pm

    “I’m going to pop over to a local mac retailer (no store here, Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada)”

    A good piece of advice from a longtime FCP cutter/Mac user in Halifax: avoid the local authorized dealer like the plague. I’ve dealt with so many clients that have been burned with supposedly “preconfigured” systems with incompatible third-party hardware that are nothing but problems. And once they have your money, they don’t return calls. I’ve made a lot of money off their incompetence.

    There is a dealer in Dartmouth, however, that I’ve heard good things about. But what I’d recommend is ordering directly from Apple. That way you can customize (add RAM, bigger HD, etc) and nobody touches it but Apple.

    Or, go to Future Shop! I’ve saved so much money buying their extended care coverage. I’ve had a three year old external CD burner and a four year old LCD monitor (not to mention a few printers) replaced with BRAND NEW units. It’s great coverage for electronics. I would DEFINITELY buy an Apple monitor there, at least, and nowhere else.

    HTH, from a fellow haligoon

  • Cm Creative media

    April 25, 2006 at 4:27 pm

    Give it up for the real East Coast!

    Yeah,

    Bary Ring runs Mac East here in Dartmouth. But I wanted to actually get my hands on a MCP to see for myself how it runs with FCP. I definitely will take the Future shop advice. Drop me your email when you get a chance to stay in touch.

    I’ve learned so far to strip it all down and build uit up as it works (systemwise) and check in with the usergroup for system advice. I don’t know too many FCP users here in HFX so it’s good to know there’s a few more.

    Thanks

    Craig Moore

    cmcreativemedia@accesswave.ca

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