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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 18, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    [Jeffrey Di Lullo] “It sounds like your sequence settings don’t match your clip settings. FCP is processing your clip on the fly to match your sequence”

    It doesn’t. He clearly said he has switched to ProRes for rendering, which means he will get the green bar for all of his HDV clips now. That’s normal and this is a very popular workflow for folks working in HDV.

    This is why we convert all our HDV footage to DVCPro HD or ProRes during ingest. Using ProRes to render HDV files yields a cleaner final product, but with a ton of additional, unnecessary rendering.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 18, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    [Elijah Lynn] “I now realize that even though my system had tons of Ram left Final Cut can only use 2560 MB (2.5 GB) of it!!! When Snow Leopard comes out and the new final cut on top of it I will be able to have my 20 sequences open no problem and probably raise it another 20 too! “

    All of this is conjecture until anything is actually released. There have been a lot of claims on here in the past of “just wait until such and such and the new version of FCP comes out….”

    We’ll know what Snow Leopard can actually do when it’s released. And when Apple gets around to updating Studio, we’ll know what it can do when it’s actually released. You almost definitely don’t want to be the first person to update Studio when it is released because the beta test team is incredibly small. Miniscule really, testing on very few configurations. So when it’s released to the 1 million registered users, you’re going find a ton of posts suddenly appearing on this forum about all the things that don’t work correctly with it.

    I generally wait at least a month, sometimes three months before I install the upgrades to Studio so all the “public beta testers” can figure out which configurations don’t work with the new software and then I can install it with that knowledge. With Studio being pretty much infinitely expandable to be used on hundreds of different configurations, Apple has woefully small beta test team to test more than a handful of scenarios. So let everyone else figure out what’s wrong first, THEN upgrade.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Elijah Lynn

    January 18, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Agreed on the upgrading!!

    But after the beta period the operating system itself will be able to address more memory and it will be truly 64 bit. These 8 cores are only going to get faster! Something that doesn’t usually happen with computers. They built the hardware before the software!

  • Elijah Lynn

    January 18, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Jeffrey,

    Everything works well now. I am using the ProRes codec and not the HDV codec on native HDV footage. I guess that is how it is supposed to be according to Walter.

    Everything but the codec matches spot on. The bright green bar is the “preview bar” and I also did not have it set to render.

  • Jeffrey Di lullo

    January 18, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    My bad, I didn’t read your post correctly. I thought that you were transcoding your clips to Pro-Res, which could cause the behavior that I was describing. Walter is correct.

    I am glad that you are getting you issue resolved. Have a great day!

    Jeffrey Di Lullo
    BBC&S Video Communicaitons

  • Mark Maness

    January 19, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Dude…

    There’s your problem. You can ONLY have 2 gig, 4 gig, 8 gig or 16 gig on an Octocore machine using FCP. This is per Apple’s instruction and has been proven many times over by almost everyone out here.

    Your memory must also be in matched pairs equally across the risers in order. Since you said you have 10 gig that would mean that you have four slots with 1 gig bars of RAM and four slots with 2 gig bars of RAM. This is a real issue when dealing with performance of FCP. You would be much better to remove the four 1 gig bars and just use the 2 gig bars in your system and watch your performance sky rocket in FCP.

    Give this a shot and see….

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    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 19, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    [Wayne Carey] “There’s your problem. You can ONLY have 2 gig, 4 gig, 8 gig or 16 gig on an Octocore machine using FCP”

    We’re running 10GB on our OctoCore since last year with no issues. Someone once thought that was our issue with Compressor, but that wasn’t it.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Mark Maness

    January 19, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Hmmm… Could it be that we have an Early 2008 model that makes the difference? I don’t know, but when I had 10 gig, FCP had no realtime effects or previews until I read a document that apple put out on this issue.

    https://support.apple.com/kb/TS1957?viewlocale=en_US

    I know it doesn’t really say anything about the sizes being multiples of 4 but I have heard people talk about this and it made a real difference in my case. Therefore, I like to pass on the info when folks are having performance issues.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    https://web.mac.com/schazamproductions
    schazamproductions@mac.com

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 19, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    [Wayne Carey] “Hmmm… Could it be that we have an Early 2008 model that makes the difference? I don’t know, but when I had 10 gig, FCP had no realtime effects or previews until I read a document that apple put out on this issue. “

    Wow, that is something. I’ve not seen any of that here. Definitely sounds like it was something to do with RAM for a lot of folks, but not something I’ve seen here.

    We just have a lot of issues with Compressor being very flaky across all our edit systems and dropping my machine to 8GB RAM was one of the solutions that was suggested to me to fix my particular workstation. It didn’t work. We just switched over to Episode for all our compression to fix that.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Elijah Lynn

    January 19, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Thanks a bunch Wayne! I am going to give that a try. I called Apple multiple times about this and they never made mention of it.

    I sure hope that helps things out, that would be amazing! Then all I have to do is get Qmaster setup on the other Octo for some nice render times!

    Even after I close all of the sequences etc, my green bar “preview” is not clear and often fuzzy.

    Cheers

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