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  • FCP – Media 100 NTSC

    Posted by Jack Shepard on February 25, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    I have a project that is on DV tapes in NonDropFrame with Timecode. Media 100 will only
    allow you to import in Drop Frame (there is no way to adjust it) so I can’t keep the TimeCode in synch.

    I had the idea of importing into FCP… in NDF and then importing the FCP quicktime file into Media 100. But the import time is really really slow … as it all gets translated into the Media 100 codec (I guess).
    There is another option — instead of having the compressor settings (with the Capture Device settings) set to DV I tried changing them to Media100NTSC720. Figuring that I’ll just digitize within FCP using the MEdia100 compressor and the files will import into Media 100 really quickly then.

    Doesn’t seem to work though. It goes for a couple of seconds (in very jerky fashion) and then gives me a locating timecode break message (when there are none). I assume it’s because that codec isn’t meant for digitizing just exporting things … but I thought I would see if anyone could shed some light on this.

    Or if there is a way to quickly transfer a FCP file into Media 100? Also tried MPEGB compressor which is slightly faster.

    Course, the easiest way is to just edit it in FCP. Yeah… old habits die hard.

    Thanks.

    Sean Oneil replied 20 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    February 25, 2006 at 9:27 pm

    [Jack Shepard] “Media 100 will only
    allow you to import in Drop Frame (there is no way to adjust it) so I can’t keep the TimeCode in synch.”

    I have never heard of this.

    Virtually all edit systems work with either DF or NDF TC and can do so on the same timeline.

  • Jack Shepard

    February 25, 2006 at 9:56 pm

    you can do on the timeline… but unfortunately not in the digitizing.

  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    February 25, 2006 at 10:01 pm

    I can’t understand that.

    There is nothing “special” about either kind of TC… its just a string of consecutive numbers applied to consecutive frames on a tape.
    (DF leaving out certain numbers at the “top” of many minutes.)

    Does your M100 CHANGE the TC numbers on the incoming tape?

    On DV, the TC is “part of” the digital frame (not a separate “track” like in analog).

  • Jack Shepard

    February 25, 2006 at 10:14 pm

    The tape is apparently in NDF and Media 100 reads it as DF. And there is
    unfortunately no setting in M100 to force it to digitize NDF. Caught me by surprise
    when I talked to M100 the other day… So when i digitize i’ll reach the top of the minute —
    for example 2:01:00:00 and the M100 will jump two frames ahead (dropping the frames)
    compared to the burned in TC on the film. Which throws off the TC more and more — the
    longer you digitize.

    Which is when I started trying to think of alternate means to import the stuff in NDF…

  • Drizzt_g

    February 25, 2006 at 10:37 pm

    The question is why was it recorded in NDF and why do you need it?

  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    February 25, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    So the burned-in TC on the IMAGE is NDF, and the TC recorded on the tape itself is DF?

    Or is it the other way around?

    One answer that comes to mind is to DUB the tape to make a copy that has the RIGHT kind of TC to match the burn-in.
    You’d need an editing deck.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    February 26, 2006 at 12:14 am

    Does the actual TC on tape match the TC window burn? (and if so, why not?) Are you actually logging these tapes, or are you capturing ‘wild’? (and if so, why not?)

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • David Smith

    February 26, 2006 at 6:16 am

    Well, I admit I stopped paying for their upgrades at version 6, but when I was still cutting on my Media 100 via the firewire daughter board I used to bring in NDF DV all the time. I never had this problem.

    Have you asked over on the Media 100 forum?

    Regards,
    David

  • Jack Shepard

    February 26, 2006 at 6:33 am

    the problem with the dailies going into the m100… it appears that they laid down the bars and tone in NDF and then the actual footage in DF. so the m100 will at first take in the footage in ndf until you have to cut as the timecode breaks from the end of a camera roll. and then the problem occurs because the m100 immediately switches back to DF. whereupon the problem occurs.

  • Drizzt_g

    February 26, 2006 at 8:18 am

    I have a solution! Cut your footage in FCP.

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