FCP having problem detecting HD1200A DVCPRO-HD deck

[Rich Rubasch]

Snce you are not using the HD SDI output of the dec to capture through a card, you might be limited by using Firewire as your input. It is possible that the 24P format is not compatible via firewire. Can you monitor the deck and be sure that the video is even coming out of the super out?

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media

[Julian Clarke]

Hi Rich,

The super is working fine, this is how I am setting the menus on the deck. So, yes there is stuff coming out of the deck. I am using firewire as my output, not my input. I am attempting to capture, not playout. I haven’t used this format before, but everything I’ve read, suggests that it is possible to capture through firewire. The timecode after all is 29.97, its only 24 after the pulldown pattern is removed.

Another thing I’ve discovered, is the in my System Profiler, my computer does not even detect a device connected to my computer when it is attached. It does detect other devices. Could this mean that some previous user of the deck, has fried the firewire port? Or does the whole attaching the deck to your computer, while its turned on, only fry the computers ports?

[Gary Adcock]

[Rich Rubasch] ” It is possible that the 24P format is not compatible via firewire. “

YES 720p24 works over FW with FCP

quick question do you have deck control ie does the computer see the deck.

the FW board may be blown.
Please tell us you have not connected the deck while POWERED? if so it could have blown the FW card.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Walter Biscardi]

[Julian Clarke] “Could this mean that some previous user of the deck, has fried the firewire port? Or does the whole attaching the deck to your computer, while its turned on, only fry the computers ports?”

If you connect a 1200A to your system while the 1200A is powered on, you have fried your Firewire Port. This has been well documented on this and other forums here on the Cow. The 1400 has addressed this issue.

Since you see no device on your firewire port, I’m assuming you have, indeed, fried it.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Walter Biscardi]

[Rich Rubasch] “. It is possible that the 24P format is not compatible via firewire.”

Completely incorrect information. You can capture all DVCPro HD formats via Firewire from the 1200A.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Julian Clarke]

Thanks for the posts guys.

The deck has a big “don’t turn this on while plugging in firewire” sticker on it. So I never made this mistake. My firewire ports are fine, as they will detect other devices. They detect no device, when I attach the deck to the port. I thus, do also not get deck control, or any video in my log and capture window.

I tried hooking up the deck to a laptop also (the power was off on the deck), this laptop also could detect no device attached. I’ve tired several different firewire cables, so it is not the cable.

Basically, I’m thinking there is either a physical problem with the deck. Or, there is a setting in the menu’s somewhere that I need to tweak.

[John Christie]

Hey Julian

One last thing to try, reset the deck back to factory presets. (I’m not near the office, so I can’t walk you through it) That’s worked for me in the past.

If that doesn’t work, the deck is probably fried. I just had one of mine done through Vidcom. It cost me about $500 bucks to have it fixed including an overall cleanup and service.

Cheers

John Christie

[Wcrogers]

Try 720 60P, for FCP setup instead of 24P. Worked for me, even though the material was 24P, Final Cut Pro worked at 60P.

[Rich Rubasch]

Ahem…er, Walter, I wasn’t offering information…I was asking the question if the 24P format wasn’t compatible over firewire. Gary answered it in an earlier post.

Sorry to tie up bandwidth, but I was feeling blamed for offering information when I was in fact trying to help troubleshoot by posing a question, which Gary answered.

Not guilty as charged.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media

[Walter Biscardi]

[Rich Rubasch] “Ahem…er, Walter, I wasn’t offering information…I was asking the question if the 24P format wasn’t compatible over firewire. Gary answered it in an earlier post.”

[Rich Rubasch]Snce you are not using the HD SDI output of the dec to capture through a card, you might be limited by using Firewire as your input. It is possible that the 24P format is not compatible via firewire.

That really doesn’t sound like a question to me. Sounds like you’re offering an opinion that Firewire might not support 24p production from the Panasonic DVCPro HD deck. I didn’t read Gary’s post before offering my response so I wanted to ensure the information was corrected on this forum.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

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