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FCP generated text aliased + PSD files issues
Posted by Herb Tarlek on March 7, 2008 at 3:37 amHi, I’m having 2 problems with FCP 6.0.2 right now.
I’m working with an HDV 1080/50i sequence. I monitor on a secondary 23″ ACD through.
Problem 1: When I create a text in FCP using the “text” generator, all the letters with a slant have terrible jaggies VERY visible at full screen HD res (ex: Letter A, N, K etc). I’ve tried Arial, Arial Bold, Trajan, Times, I tried making them bold, applying a blur filter etc, it all looks like crap. How can I get rid of that bad staircase effect?
Problem 2: I create graphic files in Photoshop CS3 (On Tiger 10.4.11 BTW), I use PS’s HDV preset. When I import the file in FCP, the aspect ratio is WAY different and I have to manually adjust all the layers. Not only that, as soon as I start playing even a little bit with the graphics (color correcting them, opacity, basic compositing actions in other words) a weird grayish halo appears around all the graphics! I basically cant do anything with .psd’s in FCP other than very basic inclusion of a file AS IS. WTF?
Thanks!
David Roth weiss replied 18 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies -
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Rafael Amador
March 7, 2008 at 4:22 amHi,
Please have a look to this article:https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/motion_text_in_fcp_spencer.html
[Herb Tarlek] “Problem 2: I create graphic files in Photoshop CS3 (On Tiger 10.4.11 BTW), I use PS’s HDV preset. When I import the file in FCP, the aspect ratio is WAY different”
Have a look in the Browser> Pixel aspect ratio. Probably you have it “Square’. I think you need to set it as HD (1440×1080). Not sure about this (I do not work with HDV) but I think can be the problem.PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
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Herb Tarlek
March 7, 2008 at 5:13 amHi, thanks but this has nothing to do with my issues.
I am monitoring the project through the Matrox MXO in HD. What I see is what the signal is. Also, there is no way the letters look like garbage because I’m using HDV. The letters are ugly even unrendered and if FCP can’t create a well formed letter in an HDV sequence then it’s titler is garbage because I can create easily do this in both Avid and Vegas.
Thanks
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David Roth weiss
March 7, 2008 at 7:14 amHerb,
If you’re using the FCP title tool you’re right, it is garbage. The tool everyone uses in FCP is called Boris Title 3D. Its there — it gets installed when FCP is installed.
Good luck…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
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David Roth weiss
March 7, 2008 at 7:33 am[Herb Tarlek] “I can create easily do this in both Avid and Vegas.”
Herb,
And please, if you’ve got any friends who use FCP, get one of them to give you the short course so we don’t have to keep hearing a constant barrage about what you can do with Avid and Vegas. Trust me, FCP can do whatever you want…
Thank you,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Herb Tarlek
March 7, 2008 at 12:39 pmMaybe if it could generate a letter properly you wouldn’t hear a constant barrage, dumbass.
The problem is not that I don’t know how to use the text generator, it’s that the text generator doesn’t work. And by the way I just tried in Boris, exact same thing.
I understand that to a wedding videographer who probably never properly monitors HD this might look good. But seeing it as is at 1920X1080 it,s unbelievably inept.
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Tom Wolsky
March 7, 2008 at 1:51 pmDavid is trying to help you. He doesn’t need abuse from you.
What format HDV are you working in? How are your Photoshop files created? Multilayer or flatten with transparency? What format are the files? How are you assigning the alpha channel?
If you’re using the Matrox MXO, what resolution have you set the second monitor to? Is it set to show the image at 100% or scaled to the monitor? Are you looking at the rendered output?
Here’s a flash. People have been making broadcast titles with this application for years. You think maybe you need to learn how to use the application?
All the best,
Tom
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David Roth weiss
March 7, 2008 at 6:03 pm[Herb Tarlek] “The problem is not that I don’t know how to use the text generator, it’s that the text generator doesn’t work.”
As Will Shakespeare once wrote, “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves…”
Herb, rather than alienating yourself and insulting every FCP user on the planet as well as those here on the Cow who you might well rely upon in the future to save your ass, just have a friend show you the tricks under the hood of FCP.
FCP has similarities to Avid, Vegas and all other NLEs, but as your post clearly points out to those who are more familiar with the app than yourself, it has many differences as well. So, you can either struggle to find those differences and learn how to deal with them all on your own, or you can accept the fact that others more familiar with the FCS apps might actually know some tricks that you don’t and let them show you the way quickly and painlessly.
FCP is a very powerful application in use by wedding videographers as well as feature filmmakers as sophisticated as Walter Murch and the Coen brothers. I doubt your niche is so special that you don’t fall somewhere in between…
[Herb Tarlek] “Maybe if it could generate a letter properly you wouldn’t hear a constant barrage, dumbass.”
Actually, my second post to you would qualify me as a “wiseass.” A dumbass is a person who only thinks they know what they’re talking about.
BTW, if you put a slight shadow and a slight edge on text created in Boris 3D I believe you will see that aliasing dissapear. Oh, and remember to keep it all on even numbered scan lines when moving in the Motion tab as well. Boris 3D does a fine job at 1080i or at any other resolution once you learn to use it, however there are also additional tools in the FCS such as LiveType and Motion that have subpixel animation and such if you need it.
All the best,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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David Roth weiss
March 7, 2008 at 6:55 pm[Tom Wolsky] “Here’s a flash. People have been making broadcast titles with this application for years. You think maybe you need to learn how to use the application?”
Good one Tom. Does that question qualify as rhetorical???
Thanks for defending me and have a great weekend…
David
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Rafael Amador
March 8, 2008 at 1:45 amThanks Herb,
800.000 FC user (mostly wedding videographer) haven’t realized that the titles do not work. Thanks God you came to open our eyes.PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
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David Roth weiss
March 8, 2008 at 2:08 amRafael wins the prize for funniest post of the week…
Meanwhile, it really is good to finally find out that FCP can’t handle text. I’ve been delusional for the last three years and I’m happy I now have total clarity.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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