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  • FCP Crash Help –PLEASE!!!

    Posted by Tim Young on February 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    When we open up the project file it continually crashes FCP. The auto save files are also crashing. There were no additional plugins or anything added since the last time we worked on it. Other project files open up fine, it’s just this one.

    We’ve tried without success….
    1. opening on another system without the media files
    2. we’ve trashed preferences
    3. someone from apple forums has checked it out and said that it was a corrupt file

    Is there anyway to rescue this project?
    How can you avoid this project in the future? (Remember we were backing it up)

    Thanks so much for all your help/suggestions!
    Tim

    Process: Final Cut Pro 154
    Path: /Applications/Final Cut Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Final Cut Pro
    Identifier: com.apple.FinalCutPro
    Version: 6.0.5 (6.0.5)
    Build Info: FCPApp-810171515~24
    Code Type: X86 (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd 80

    Date/Time: 2009-02-09 11:27:43.550 -0600
    OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55)
    Report Version: 6

    Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
    Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000606258df
    Crashed Thread: 0

    Thread 0 Crashed:
    0 ??? 0xa08c2ca2 0 + 2693541026
    1 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001129eb pKGDictHasNotifier(KGDictInt*, KGErrorCode (*)(long, long, KGDictInt*, void*), KGDictNotifyActOn, unsigned char*, …) + 53
    2 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x003b5cac pKGSpeedMakeInOutMessageable(KGDictInt*, unsigned char) + 158
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x003b40a8 SpeedInOutMsgProc(long, long, KGDictInt*, SpeedNotifyRec*) + 364
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012a7c8 ReadMessageable + 542
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0010fc66 ReadNotifiers + 482
    6 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f378 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 332
    7 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    8 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    9 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    10 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b21b KGTypeReadPtr + 61
    11 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x000040ab KGDictReadArray + 341
    12 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113da8 KGDictReadInternal + 142
    13 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    14 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b1d7 KGTypeReadValue + 131
    15 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f351 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 293
    16 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    17 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    18 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    19 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b21b KGTypeReadPtr + 61
    20 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x000040ab KGDictReadArray + 341
    21 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113da8 KGDictReadInternal + 142
    22 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    23 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b1d7 KGTypeReadValue + 131
    24 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f351 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 293
    25 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    26 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    27 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    28 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b1d7 KGTypeReadValue + 131
    29 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f351 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 293
    30 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    31 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    32 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    33 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b1d7 KGTypeReadValue + 131
    34 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f351 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 293
    35 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    36 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    37 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    38 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b21b KGTypeReadPtr + 61
    39 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x000040ab KGDictReadArray + 341
    40 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113da8 KGDictReadInternal + 142
    41 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    42 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b1d7 KGTypeReadValue + 131
    43 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f351 KGDictReadHashCommon(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*, KGDictInt* (*)(long)) + 293
    44 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0001f460 KGDictReadHash + 38
    45 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00113d8e KGDictReadInternal + 116
    46 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00124e65 ReadDict(void*, KGStreamRecord*, KGReferenceTableInt*) + 67
    47 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0012b21b KGTypeReadPtr + 61
    48 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00114114 pKGDictReadWithFlags(KGDictInt**, KGStreamRecord*, KGMessageableRec*, unsigned long, __CFArray const*) + 580
    49 …FinalCutPro.Plugins.Browser 0x0ae0ba00 BrowserOpenFile(KGFileRec*, unsigned char, unsigned char) + 2680
    50 …FinalCutPro.Plugins.Browser 0x0ae0eec1 Browser(long, long, KGDictInt*, KGFileRec*) + 10179
    51 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00183fd2 pKGDisplayFile(KGFileSpec*, char*, unsigned char, unsigned char) + 426
    52 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x003ff5ff OpenDocuments(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, long) + 311
    53 com.apple.AE 0x918bf648 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 144
    54 com.apple.AE 0x918bf57e dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 44
    55 com.apple.AE 0x918bf425 aeProcessAppleEvent + 177
    56 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935e39a5 AEProcessAppleEvent + 38
    57 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93641e46 AEProcessEvent + 160
    58 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93641d99 HIStdAppHandler::HandleEvent(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, TCarbonEvent&) + 219
    59 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9363f03a TEventHandler::EventHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 70
    60 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935b9143 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1181
    61 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935b857d SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 405
    62 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935b83e2 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 58
    63 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935e6d54 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 356
    64 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935b94fc DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2134
    65 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935b857d SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 405
    66 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x935d4ed2 SendEventToEventTarget + 52
    67 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93641b80 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 86
    68 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9363e3da RunApplicationEventLoop + 222
    69 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0014cece KGMainEvent(void*) + 46
    70 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x002aae53 main + 59
    71 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00003122 _start + 216
    72 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00003049 start + 41

    Thread 1:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9506c6f2 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 2:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950243ae __semwait_signal + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504ed0d pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x96579b32 glvmDoWork + 162
    3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 3:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004152e8 DisplayQueue::Run() + 702
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 4:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 5:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 6:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 7:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 8:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 9:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 10:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d20e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f206 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95094539 pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004292ad Synchronizable::Wait() + 47
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004cc3e3 WorkUnitPerformer::Run() + 55
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00453544 Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 20
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 11:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d1c6 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950249bc mach_msg + 72
    2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de50ae CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
    3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de5d34 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    4 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x24aa20fb AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 297
    5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 12:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d1c6 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950249bc mach_msg + 72
    2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de50ae CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
    3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de5cd8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
    4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914fd5dc HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
    5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914fd464 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 13:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d1c6 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950249bc mach_msg + 72
    2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de50ae CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
    3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94de5cd8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
    4 ….CoreMediaIOServicesPrivate 0x96bccf88 MIO::DAL::RunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
    5 ….CoreMediaIOServicesPrivate 0x96bcf108 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 14:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d2e6 mach_wait_until + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950943ad nanosleep + 314
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9509426d usleep + 61
    3 com.apple.DesktopVideoOut 0x24b58b92 DVOClockGetTime + 1211
    4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 15:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d226 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f1ef _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95050a73 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
    3 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96c2ce62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
    4 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96c2cc42 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422
    5 …ickTimeComponents.component 0x942e2bee ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 4724
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 16:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9501d226 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504f1ef _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95050a73 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
    3 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96c2ce62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
    4 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96c2cc42 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422
    5 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96c55248 AIOFileThread(void*) + 1056
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504e095 _pthread_start + 321
    7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9504df52 thread_start + 34

    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
    eax: 0xbfff001f ebx: 0x003b3f3c ecx: 0xa08bbedf edx: 0x49b9d5c4
    edi: 0xbfffd834 esi: 0xbfffd88f ebp: 0xbfffd818 esp: 0xbfffd7ac
    ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0xa08c2ca2 cs: 0x00000017
    ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
    cr2: 0x606258df

    Tim Young replied 17 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • David Bogie

    February 9, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    [Tim Young] “We’ve tried without success….
    1. opening on another system without the media files
    2. we’ve trashed preferences
    3. someone from apple forums has checked it out and said that it was a corrupt file
    Is there anyway to rescue this project?
    How can you avoid this project in the future? (Remember we were backing it up) “

    If the backups form the AutoSave vault are also crashing the application, there was ALWAYS something wrong with the file or, and this is big, your drive (or the bus talking to the drive) where the AutoSave Vault is held is bad.

    You see the logic here? The file was good or it was bad. if it was good, then it should still be good. If was good and is now bad, something has happened to the previous versions of the project files and that’s not possible unless it is being read improperly. A file can be read improperly because the disk is messed up or the bus is having trouble with that sector.

    You could try any of many data recovery utilities but your success rate is going to be much less than 50/50.

    Avoid it? You do that by saving your autosaves to a separate system and by backing up your project files every one cone in a while. On major mission-critical projects, we stat a new day by incrementing the project and saving it with a new name.

    bogiesan

  • Tim Young

    February 9, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    First of all thanks for your time.

    Have you ever exported XML files for backups or have ever exported quick time with original time code for backups?

    We have three sources of backup files and they are all corrupt. I completely understand what you are saying in that the file had to be corrupt ahead of time…it’s just weird because we have gone back 10 autosaves and they are all corrupt, but the one before that is good. So at the time when the file became corrupt, we were currently working on it without knowing it was corrupt? This raises the question, assuming all the projects we work on will eventually be corrupted how then are we to save so we can restore them? (This is the only project that this has happened out of 100’s of project files but now we have to assume the worst every time)

    We will run a disk utility now to see if its any of the drives. If you have any other ideas/suggestions we’d appreciate it.

    Again thank you!

  • David Bogie

    February 9, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    I wish I had better advice or a magic button. Many of us have had corrupt project files at one time or another and I cannot recall anyone being able to identify a specific cause.

    A corrupt autosave only means the autosave was being written bad (or it is being read bad). Since you were NOT starting each day by launching the last autosave, you had no way of knowing any of them were possibly bad. However, it’s not logical that your project files were working okay as live, open files but were at the same time writing bad autosaves. Nor is it likely that the corrupt autosaves had anything to do with the live file eventually going bad.

    Your fear that every new project will eventually go corrupt does not follow from this present situation in the least. You have a catastrophic issue that may or may not be related to your drive media but it’s not at all likely to be related to FCP in the least.

    I’m afraid I don’t understand your opening remark but no, I’ve never used XML for anything (although I’ve got tons of XLRs). I’m a Media Manager and Time machine kinda guy.

    bogiesan

  • Steve Eisen

    February 9, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Move your media to a different folder and try to open your project.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Chris Borjis

    February 10, 2009 at 1:24 am

    dang I wonder if this is yet another 6.05 related bug.

    bad, bad, bad.

    please do let us know if you figure it out.

  • Tim Young

    February 10, 2009 at 2:45 am

    We were not able to recover the file and had to go back to the most recent autosave file that wasn’t corrupted. Annoying to say the least. We had been exporting quick times as we were finishing sequences so we did have a QT file without time code which allowed us to recover only losing a day of work. In the future we will export time code with the QT file.

    Thanks for all help/suggestions!

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