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  • FCP and MacBook Pro

    Posted by Jack Tunnicliffe on March 6, 2009 at 6:14 am

    I run a post house called Java Post Production. We normally edit and finish in 10 bit uncompressed for everything we do, having a 28TB server capable of 2K performance for read and write. Having said that, wouldn’t you think the latest greatest MacBook Pro could edit HDV for my home movies? This really disturbs me. I have the latest computer with the graphics card in high performance,4 gigs of ram, yet with HDV footage there is there unbelievable delay every time I try to trim a clip on the sequence. What’s with that? If I grab the footage and open it on an Intel 8 core or for that matter, even on old G5 there is no delay at all. Could there be something I’m missing or is this the world of HDV editing in FCP on a MacBook Pro?

    Jack Tunnicliffe replied 17 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Colin Mcquillan

    March 6, 2009 at 6:32 am

    [Jack Tunnicliffe] “Could there be something I’m missing or is this the world of HDV editing in FCP on a MacBook Pro?”

    Could be. I’m usually on my tower, but am from time to time when on the road editing HDV, DVCam, ProRes and XDCam EX footage in hotel rooms on my macbook pro without issue.

    I do however use external storage for all my footage. I never edit off the internal laptop hardrive.

    Is you footage on the internal drive, and is that drive spinning at 5400rpm by chance?

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver, B.C.

  • Jack Tunnicliffe

    March 6, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Yea,I think something’s wrong with this machine or my setup. It doesn’t make sense. HDV is such a low data rate. It makes no difference if I’m on a fast, external firewire 800 drive or on the eternal. I’ve tried a simple project with one clip and even that has a big delay when trimming.

  • Rafael Amador

    March 6, 2009 at 9:46 am

    Hi Jack,
    Do you use Diskwarrior, TechTools or any similar application to maintain the directories?
    Rafael

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  • Jack Tunnicliffe

    March 6, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Yes, I do use DiskWarrior, etc. The computer runs fine, persmissions correct, etc, etc. It’s brand new so there really shouldn’t be directory issues yet. The footage plays fine in QT or in the viewer, but as soon as you drag over to make an overwrite or try to drop it down on the sequence the machine almost freezes. I’d have to say that I’m 90 percent sure that this is some sort of display issue. I’ve got the Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT card with 512MB of ram. This is a fast display card yet there is this 2 second delay. A person can’t edit a documentary like this. Add all those 2 second delays up and you get days or weeks at the end of the project in wasted time. Again, moving the project over to a desktop machine on a firewire drive results in no delays dragging, dropping, trimming.

  • Rafael Amador

    March 7, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Hi Jack,
    Big mistake to believe that because you just installed the system everything is fine.
    Look at this picture:

    Those are the directories of a System HD after a clean installing of MacOSX and QT in a brand new HD.
    If you keep installing the full FCS without rebuilding the directories you end up with almost a 40% messed up.
    I edit mostly EX-1 in a MBP and works great.
    Rafael

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  • Jack Tunnicliffe

    March 7, 2009 at 3:41 am

    Okay, Rafael… you’ve convinced me. I’m going to run through it all and reinstall FCP this weekend from scratch. Will let you know how I make out. Thanks for your advice.

  • Rafael Amador

    March 7, 2009 at 5:46 am

    Hi Jack,
    The think is that the people believe that after installing the System is in perfect conditions, but as you can see is not like that at all.
    The “Optimizing System” that we see after some installations it really makes not much.
    Apple relay for optimizing in TechTools. Is the tool included in the Apple Care Programs.
    If yu haven’t ran yet this or DiskWarrior, do it. You may not need to re-install everything.
    Some times you need to rebuild the directories more than one time to get them perfectly clean.
    If you dedicate half hour to clean your HDs every two weeks you will get rid of slow performance, hungs or any need to trash preferences.
    cheers,
    rafael

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  • Jack Tunnicliffe

    March 7, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    There is just one problem. The current Diskwarrior won’t start my new laptop. Here’s what they are saying:

    The current DiskWarrior DVD cannot start up the new white MacBook (NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics) and MacBook Pro 17″ models introduced in January 2009 and it cannot start up the new iMac, Mac mini and Mac Pro models introduced March 3, 2009. An updated disc that will also start up these recent Mac models will be released as soon as Apple, Inc. releases new startup files to Alsoft, Inc. and other developers.

    I’m going to try booting up in target mode and fixing it from another machine.

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