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  • FCP 7 Share feature

    Posted by Jon Felix on September 22, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    I was excited by the possibilities of the new Share feature. For one reason in particular: I am editing complex HD material with multiple layers – realtime playback is naturally almost impossible, and my normal methodology was to render out little bits of the timeline as Quicktimes to check how the work is looking. Of course I would have to wait whilst this was done.

    I thought that Share would enable me to render out Quicktimes of parts of the timeline IN THE BACKGROUND whilst I carried on editing. In reality FCP seems almost frozen up whilst it is making the Quicktime. Playback – even of original shots in the bins – is very stilted and any real editing work is impossible until the (so-called) background process is finished. Not sure what is going on here – background rendering of Smoothcams (for example) works just fine without slowing down the computer.

    I have a new 2 x 2.66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor with 24Gb of RAM, running FCS3 and Snow Leopard.

    Any advice most gratefully received,

    Jon Felix
    DIGIT POST
    Marin County, California

    Kevin Monahan replied 16 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    September 22, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    FCP doesn’t do background rendering of smoothcam. It does background analysis, which is very different and is done by the processor to the media file themselves generating a a data file. It does not require FCP at all. It would be really simple to code it to be processed without even opening FCP. Rendering however is an entirely different matter. For every frame that’s rendered the application has to be access to be told exactly what to do with that frame. It would be nice if it could be entirely in the background, but there really is no way for it to do that. And of course any work you do in the sequence that’s being rendered complicates it exponentially.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 22, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Smoothcam works totally differently. Smoothcam actually start and stops depending n your CPU usage. The Share function, once started, will not throttle itself like the background processing of Smoothcam. The Share function basically allows you to export straight to compressor and still work in FCP, a feature that locked you out of FCP before. Since it sounds like your sequences are complex, then compressor is probably using most of your CPU. If you open the Activity Monitor application and click on CPU, you can tell what is going on in your machine.

    Jeremy

  • Jon Felix

    September 22, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Thanks guys for your clarifications. I was aware of how Smoothcam worked and I guess I was (perhaps naively) expecting Share to work the same way – pausing whilst one was working, then carrying on.

    BTW – having been reading lots of posts on other forums in the past half hour – I am far from the only one with the expectation of being able to make ‘test’ Quicktimes in the background.

    Another example I fear, of programmers not understanding exactly what editors need …

    Jon Felix
    DIGIT POST
    Marin County, California

  • Kevin Monahan

    September 22, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    You can work while running Compressor in the background, however, the material you are working with is probably too complex to do both edit and process video. You’ve got the “Perfect Storm” of too much bandwidth needed and not enough CPU speed. Have you considered with working with ProRes LT or the like? You might get a better workflow.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Neil Sadwelkar

    September 23, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Isn’t there some setting that controls how much resources are assigned to FCP?
    Memory usage, Stills cache, Thumbnail Cache. Do any of these concern rendering? Could one tweak these to get some juice out the CPU?

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    Neil Sadwelkar
    neilsadwelkar.blogspot.com
    twitter: fcpguru
    FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
    Mumbai India

  • Kevin Monahan

    September 23, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    It’s a good thought, Neil. I’d like to see what would improve it. However, I think the best things you can do is buy a faster MacPro, get a faster video card on the hardware side and reduce the overhead of your sequence on the software side.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

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