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  • FCP 6.02 crashing on export

    Posted by Pelai Vancar on November 25, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    FCP 6.02 QT 7.3 OS 10.4.11

    I cannot export out of finalcut without crashing. What can I do?

    My problems are a long story but I hope you could be patient with me and might have some insight as I believe there are maybe several factors that have:

    I was having some FCP 6.01 slowlyness issues that I could not seem to find the root of (did all maintenance, changed drives, repaired permissions and trashed FCP prefs and reinstalled OS.). See my older thread:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/961699

    I’m on a Alu iMac 2.8, 3gb RAM + external firewire 500gb mediadrive.

    By the end of my project I started getting some videoglitches (+ could not work with dual monitors: when watching fullscreen preview in 1080x 1900, the other monitor would corrupt on canvas and viewer). I finally had a graphicscard crash that convinced my previous theory of a defective graphicscard. Since apple had released a firmware update to fix graphicscard issues on this line of iMacs I decided to
    update the firmware but to do so I had to updatade the iMac software and go to 10.4.11. This I did but then my graphicscard did not accept the firmware update only the software one (apple states that not all graphicscard need this firmware update).

    Now I could work with dual monitors once again but noticed that I dropped frames on rendered media if any other sequence was open in timeline(!).

    As my deadline grew closer and I was ready for final output I had to continue working, but after losing almost final rendered sequence three nights in a row two days before deliver I saw no other option to upgrade to (though I knew that it was a bad idea to upgrade final cut pro in the middle of a project) FCP 6.02 wich was supposed to fix renderfiles missing and also QT 7.3.

    Once updated I trashed all older renderfiles and rerendered film for output.
    Now, when I try to export FCP crashes after about 10%.
    What mystifies as well is that FCP states that an exported reference file takes same time to export as a selfcontained one.
    By the way I am editing HDV mixed with DV with multiple effects, rendering Prores.

    I also seem to continue to experience rendering files going missing if I add something after a rendered nested sequence.

    What could be going on? Is my projectfile corrupt? Is there any way to get this editing out of this project safely?

    I will be sending my iMac back to apple for the graphicscard issues but I would like to sort out this project first (my deadline for delivery has now been postponed).

    Thanx for any help you could give to someone very desperate now.

    Gary Feblowitz replied 18 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    November 26, 2007 at 8:33 am

    Hi pelai,
    You say that you make some maintenance. Please run again diskwarrior and have a look to the graphic.
    Where are you saving your render files? In you main disk? no good.
    You are trying to play ProRes from your HD with FC open (more than one open sequence) and with two monitors in an iMac. I think you are asking too much to your machine. Close whatever thing you don’t (extra sequences, video out) and let all the possible resources for the rendering.
    And sorry if I sound like a grandma, but please, use Diskwarrior. At least like that you know that your system is optimized and you can concentrate your self in troubleshooting FCS or your graphic card.
    Rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Pelai Vancar

    November 26, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    HI Rafalaos,

    Nice to see you again and thanx for your willingness to help.
    Unfortunately your answers do not help me much. I think you have misunderstood me.
    1: I don’t save any renderfiles on my main internal systemdrive. All media is on an external drive.
    2: The HDV (rendered in prores) sequence I intend to watch has been rendered so there should not be any dropped frames on playback.

    3: You say that I am asking to much out of an iMac when wanting to watch an already rendered Prores on an external monitor. Actually an iMac should be able to handle this.

    I am sure there is a problem with the graphicscard.
    What I am not sure about is why an already rendered sequence cannot export. And why even a reference file export should take hours to export according to FCP and then crash. If this also is due to my faulty graphicscard then I would have to wait for an exchange by apple but it seems weird.

    I did use discwarrior, have used it repeatedly so the magic solution is not there. The apple hardware test also states that graphicscard is fine, but so it did for hundreds of iMac users that are now having their graphicscard changed. I really wish I could have afforded a Macpro in retrospect but unfortunately I couldn’t.

    I will probably try getting the media offline and then reimport the footage and see if that changes anything. If my media is corrupt this could be a solution.

    If you think of anything else, don’t hesitate. I am willing to try anything to get this project out as soon as possible.

  • Dave Jenkins

    November 27, 2007 at 2:31 am

    I have not be able to confirm this but it is my feeling that HDV and XDCAM footage which is what we are using has to re-conform to HDV on export when rendering in ProRes. I wanted to render to ProRes for our XDCAM footage but after rendering, the export took forevvvvverrrrr. I gave up and when back to rendering to HDV and the export was back to normal. This was in 6.0.1. I haven’t tried it yet in 6.0.2 as we just installed it today. I will let you know what happens.

  • Pelai Vancar

    November 27, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Hi Dave,

    Your suggestion sounds interesting and I am now trying it out.

    I once again deleted the previous renderfiles and had FCP crashing this time on rendering at about 10% of the project, wich is roughly where FCP crashed when I was trying to export.
    I then rebatched the media and had the smoothcam analisys run all night.
    I am now rendering again, this time, conforming to HDV and not Prores.
    I am really hoping this might help.

    Thanx for your input!

  • Pelai Vancar

    November 29, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    OK,

    Here’s an update of the situation hoping maybe one of you might have a suggestion as to what might be my next step.

    With new media imported I had again FCP crash on me on rendering, HDV or Prores.
    I erased and installed my OS and FCP 6.02 without any external plug-ins and again a crash on rendering.

    I would think something on my editing timeline is probably gone wrong.

    My timeline contains lots of nested sequences containing smoothcamfilter and scaling and I am beginning to worry maybe it’s the smoothcamfilter that’s causing this issue.

    If you know of any way to troubleshoot this I would much appreciate any help.

    Thanx

  • Rafael Amador

    November 29, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Pelai,
    You my have too a corrupted clip that makes you crash on exporting. Make a copy of your sequence with the less possible filters but keeping all the nests and all the footage you have used. If keep crashing could be what I said before.
    Rafael
    .

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Rafael Amador

    November 29, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Pelai,
    You my have too a corrupted clip that makes you crash on exporting. Make a copy of your sequence with the less possible filters but keeping all the nests and all the footage you have used. If keep crashing could be what I said before.
    Rafael
    .

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Pelai Vancar

    November 29, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    Thanx Rafael for jumping in again!

    I’m going to try that out and see if that gives me any results.

    thanx

    Pelai

  • Rafael Amador

    November 29, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    Is frustrating not being able to have a look to the computer of somebody when is in troubles.
    To see if a corrupted file is not difficult. Put your footage off-line and render If its render OK , may be a corrupted file. The only problem some times is to know which one is making your life miserable.
    Rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • Pelai Vancar

    November 29, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Rafael,

    I thought too that it was a clip that had it’s media corrupted. I therefore did put media offline and rebatched. But I still get crashing on rendering. So this is not it.
    I am now going through my editing on timeline to see if there is anything I can see wrong with any effects.

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