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  • FCP 5 first impressions

    Posted by Sean Lander on June 6, 2005 at 12:09 pm

    Just installed FCP 5. Here are my initial observations.
    Interface looks cleaner. Buttons are darker.
    No brushed metal look in Colour Corrector. **good riddance**
    User prefs mostly all the same. Browser text size an option.
    **changing the browser text size changes it for all open bins and
    the timeline! How stupid is this? Makes it unusable.**
    The progress window is larger.
    Reconnect window looks a bit more intuitive.
    Title 3D 2.0 some minor tweeks. (More colour pickers.)
    Multicam. Multitrack capture!!!!!
    Latency still exists on playback/stop about 2 frames late with FCP set to renderer and playing out to Firewire.
    Log and Capture still doesn’t show you what tracks you are capturing on the main interface.
    User settings are still all over the place, not in one neat settings file.

    That’s about it so far. Yes came up against old projects looking like crap in 5.
    Especially text from Title 3D. Tweaked settings remembered from the cow and fixed it all.
    Though it’s all a bit of a mess in there not intuitive in any way.

    I can’t believe they have called this Final Cut Pro 5. I’m just amazed. At best I would call it FCP 4.6 HD.

    Though Soundtrack Pro looks great. This program is worthy of a full whole number upgrade.
    Just wish the interface was consistent with FCP. J-K-L anyone?

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    Oliver Peters replied 20 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Oliver Peters

    June 6, 2005 at 1:10 pm

    [Sean Lander] “…. Browser text size an option.
    **changing the browser text size changes it for all open bins and
    the timeline! How stupid is this? Makes it unusable.**…..
    …..I can’t believe they have called this Final Cut Pro 5. I’m just amazed. At best I would call it FCP 4.6 HD. ….
    ….Though Soundtrack Pro looks great. This program is worthy of a full whole number upgrade…..”

    Sean,

    You certainly sound jaded! The browser text size was the biggest single complaint I heard when training older editors using FCP for the first time. This was a welcomed and unexpected change. Absolutely necessary on 23″ displays.

    What about multicam, native HDV, ability to use IMX and P2 media?

    STP is a rewrite not an upgrade. It is not ST 2.0. What about Send To of multitrack audio timelines to STP with pix reference? Didn’t you like any of these things?

    Sincerely,
    Oliver

    Oliver Peters
    Post-Production & Interactive Media
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Sean Lander

    June 6, 2005 at 1:28 pm

    Yes I like them all. No in fact I love them! Studio as an upgrade is worth every cent.
    Compressor 2 is awesome. Soundtrack Pro fantastic. There is a lot of great stuff that has happened under the hood to FCP as well.
    All welcomed. I just can’t understand why some of the fundamental things that have bugged
    users for so long haven’t been addressed. Using it, it just feels looks and smells like version 4.
    I was just hoping for more I guess. Maybe now that the engine is done, the next upgrade will do the upholstery and
    the body work 😉

    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
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    email: sean@rednail.com.au

  • Oliver Peters

    June 6, 2005 at 2:08 pm

    [Sean Lander] “he next upgrade will do the upholstery and
    the body work”

    Sean,

    I would agree on the things that still need to be done, but for reasons that others like Graeme have pointed out a number of times, this would take quite a bit of rewriting of the core. Since this probably affects only a small percentage of users, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    Sincerely,
    Oliver

    Oliver Peters
    Post-Production & Interactive Media
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jerry Hofmann

    June 6, 2005 at 3:49 pm

    “**changing the browser text size changes it for all open bins and
    the timeline! How stupid is this? Makes it unusable.** ”

    Apparently you’ve not run FCP on a 30″ display… makes it more than just usable.. it’s a must.

    Jerry

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  • Walter Biscardi

    June 6, 2005 at 3:55 pm

    [Sean Lander] “**changing the browser text size changes it for all open bins and
    the timeline! How stupid is this? Makes it unusable.**”

    Dude, run FCP 5 on a 30″ display and see just how “stupid” this is. You can’t read the FCP text on a 30″ at full resolution without using this feature. Maybe it’s stupid for your setup, but there’s a reason it’s in there.

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  • Mark Arenz

    June 6, 2005 at 3:58 pm

    What about all this talk about LiveTitle integration? Has the media manager become more intuivit/usable? In other words, can FCP5 trim an offline in less than 50 steps?

  • Oliver Peters

    June 6, 2005 at 4:04 pm

    >>What about all this talk about LiveTitle integration?<< From whom? Not from Apple. LiveType is the same as before but I believe with more collections in the Studio bundle. Maybe also in FCP5 by itself. >> In other words, can FCP5 trim an offline in less than 50 steps?<< Offline to online conforms are cumbersome but not as bad as you imply. Just a weak point that is about the same as before. Sincerely, Oliver Oliver Peters Post-Production & Interactive Media Orlando, FL http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Blub06

    June 6, 2005 at 5:12 pm

    I think his point was it would be nice to selectively choose which window and where the larger text should appear, not as a global feature.

    Chris

  • Sean Lander

    June 6, 2005 at 10:58 pm

    But WHY link the two. Why not have a separate control for timeline text? Ok for all of you luck enough to own a 30″ Cinema Display congratulations. But for us poor slobs on 20s and 23s it makes the timeline impossible to read. You see about 3-4 letters of the word if there is a lot of cutting. It really makes no sense at all to link them. It’s a stunning oversight IMHO.

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    R E D N A I L – M E D I A
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    email: sean@rednail.com.au

  • Sean Lander

    June 6, 2005 at 11:04 pm

    Exactly. I work on very large documentaries. Thousands of clips. I like to have several bins open in their own windows.
    It would be great if I could make one bin have large text and another small as one bin might have 20 overlay clips while the other 100 interview grabs. But as soon as you make the text larger, everything gets larger. So your bin with interview grabs becomes two words only in the description field.

    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
    R E D N A I L – M E D I A
    https://www.rednail.com.au
    email: sean@rednail.com.au

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