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  • FCP 4.5 dropping frames

    Posted by Kyle on December 3, 2005 at 7:38 am

    I posted a similar thread a few weeks back about FCPHD 4.5 dropping frames upon playback. I have since used a second camera and recaptured most of my footage. However, upon digitizing I still had issues but not as many, about 5 times I had to continue digitizing from just after where I left off compared to about 10. But now upon playback the drive makes the same noise and happens to drop frames at different points than when I digitized initially. At first I thought it was the camera I shot the footage with and that the heads were out of allignment or dirty and that would be the only camera I could use to re-capture with. But, once I saw the playback problems in different areas I’m starting to think it could be my hard drive. It is a brand new internal Seagate that has nothing on it but this FCP project. Any more ways of determining this and if so is there any way to save the media other than moving it to another drive? I do not have enough drive space on my external to hold all of the project. I know there is a media mangaer function but I have only sparsely used that function and that was on Pinnacle LE. Any more suggestions????

    Thanks

    Ben Insler replied 20 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    December 3, 2005 at 7:41 am

    What drive are you capturing to? How is it formatted?

  • Kyle

    December 3, 2005 at 4:18 pm

    I’m using a brand new internal OEM Seagate 300GB, I don’t recall the model #. Anyway, one thing I did do is format it with extended journaling turned on. I wasn’t aware this should only be used for a startup disk until after the process began and I didn’t think I could stop it in any way. I asked an audio editor at work and he said that might actually be a bit better that it’s turned so as to help with organization etc. and it shouldn’t cause a problem but I’m beginning to wonder. I did not add a second partition or anything else and this project is the only thing on the drive. I tried bringing in some footage to FC Express and it did the same thing there. I have not tried capturing a few minutes to my external drive yet to see if that helps it. If it does I guess that would answer my question. Hope this helps.

    Thanks

    Kyle

  • Don Greening

    December 3, 2005 at 5:34 pm

    Like Shane Ross and I recommended to you on Nov. 19th, keep journaling turned OFF for any media drive. Journaling on will interfere with the capture process big time. Your video editor at work has chosen…….poorly 🙂

    – Don

  • Kyle

    December 3, 2005 at 5:44 pm

    Well I for sure won’t drink from that cup, I must look for one made by a carpenter…I hope I got your reference right!! Anyway, so basically I have to reformat my drive and start over???

    Thanks a bunch

    Kyle

  • Don Greening

    December 3, 2005 at 6:00 pm

    Your reference was bang on.

    No drive reformat is necessary. Just start Apple’s Disk Utility, choose your media drive from the list and turn off journaling for that drive. That’s all there is to it. Maybe do a restart afterwards and you’re good to go.

    Now you have chosen wisely.

    – Don

  • Kyle

    December 4, 2005 at 12:33 am

    Thanks,

    I tried changing the drive journaling off but it seems to always revert back to journaling once I escape out of it.
    I’m using 10.39 OSX, is there a way to save the changes?

    Thanks

    Kyle

  • Kyle

    December 4, 2005 at 12:41 am

    Let me reply to myself,

    I thought on the last message it read no, reformating is neccessary but the way I read it now is, no reformating is neccessary. (damn commas!) So, after waiting all day for the drive to erase itself which it never completed,
    I escaped out of it and found it had only erased 1GB in about 5 hours! I then re-tried your changing it to journaling and voula it worked finally but it did erase all prior info. Let’s hope this helps the problem otherwise it’s a camera issue I suppose.

    Thanks for everything

  • Don Greening

    December 4, 2005 at 1:52 am

    I had a case of the stupids today, so I’ll now try to be as clear as I can:

    When you choose to erase a media drive using Disk Utility you can format in 3 ways:

    1. Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
    2. Mac OS Extended
    3. Unix File System

    Choose number 2 for any media drive. Choose number 1 for a system/startup drive.

    I was in error when I told you that formatting was NOT neccessary because I thought that turning journaling on or off was just a radio button. It’s not. You need to reformat every time you change that preference. My mistake and sorry for the confusion. It was my turn to choose poorly.

    – Don

  • Kyle

    December 4, 2005 at 11:47 pm

    Thanks,

    I am re-digitizing now after a re-formating of the drive. I am still getting “timecode breaks” where the camera will stop and I will continue on although the sync was still fine. However, the last section of video I digitized loses sync a few minutes in and now some of the other footage is now not playing back ie freezing playback and the drop frame error. To ensure this wasn’t my hard drive failing, I pulled in some other projects and they played back fine and are now stored on this hard drive although they were not digitized on this drive. I will try and digitize some random footage in and see if it causes problems.

    Other than that I have to point at the source which would be the DVX100A I shot it on and see if I can digitize with the camera it was shot on, maybe it could solve my problems, otherwise it seems like it was recorded with issues. The weird thing is that the tape plays back just fine and at no time does the timecode break or reset although the computer sees breaks and that’s when it’s stops digitizing. Any thing more I can puzzle you guys with????

  • Don Greening

    December 5, 2005 at 5:19 am

    Your mention of the DVX100A brought up a red flag for me. What is the frame rate of the video you’re attempting to transfer to your hard drive? If it’s 24p or 24p Advanced there may be a problem with the computer trying to remove/add pulldown on the fly i.e. it’s not fast enough to do it.

    – Don

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